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« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2014, 03:45:07 PM »


Sweden had elections in 1958, 1960 and 1970 after 2 years.   

The 1958 election is the only one that counts. in 1970 they had an early election because they changed the entire constitution and eliminated the upper house. It wasn't because of a government falling.
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« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2014, 03:45:47 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.
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« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2014, 03:47:17 PM »

Social democracy isn't dead yet but it's clearly on its deathbed.
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« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2014, 03:47:30 PM »

I guess this result will mean a center-left minority government with a significant chance of a mid-term election.

I don't think Sweden has ever had a "mid-term election"...the centre left will find some way to stay in power until 2018 - there is no alternative

Sweden had elections in 1958, 1960 and 1970 after 2 years.   

I think he means "early election". Only 1958 counts as one. 1960 was at the regular date, and 1970 was due to Swedish constitutional reforms.  In other words, they have not had an early election in 56 years.
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« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2014, 03:50:13 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2014, 04:01:27 PM by Lurker »

I wonder whether the Alliance will try to hang on to power after all. The statements of a government minister indicates that they might do so.
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« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2014, 03:50:18 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2014, 04:00:12 PM by politicus »


Sweden had elections in 1958, 1960 and 1970 after 2 years.   

The 1958 election is the only one that counts. in 1970 they had an early election because they changed the entire constitution and eliminated the upper house. It wasn't because of a government falling.

I know, but its still a mid-term. Why wouldn't 1960 count? 1921 with the SAP/Communist split counts as well.

Of course today they have fixed terms, so its only of historical interest.


I think he means "early election". Only 1958 counts as one. 1960 was at the regular date, and 1970 was due to Swedish constitutional reforms.  In other words, they have not had an early election in 56 years.

It sounds odd that they needed a regular election 2 years after an early election - fixed election dates instead of fixed terms is strange. Are you sure about this?
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« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2014, 03:52:32 PM »

If it is true that the elections have fixed dates then I agree it is likely that the S-MP-V will survive since it is almost impossible for the center-right parties to have a position coalition.  It is easy to get them to agree on a negative coalition, like vote down the budget.
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« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2014, 03:55:10 PM »

If it is true that the elections have fixed dates then I agree it is likely that the S-MP-V will survive since it is almost impossible for the center-right parties to have a position coalition.  It is easy to get them to agree on a negative coalition, like vote down the budget.

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« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2014, 03:55:18 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.

Yeah, with a bunch of xenophobic bastards holding the balance of power. Surely this is gonna be a wonderful left-wing government.
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« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2014, 03:55:44 PM »


Sweden had elections in 1958, 1960 and 1970 after 2 years.   

The 1958 election is the only one that counts. in 1970 they had an early election because they changed the entire constitution and eliminated the upper house. It wasn't because of a government falling.

I know, but its still a mid-term. Why wouldn't 1960 count? 1921 with the SAP/Communist split counts as well.

Of course today they have fixed terms, so its only of historical interest.

I don't think 1960 could have been held at a later date. In the event of an early election, the next election would still have to take place four years after the last "regular" election (i.e., not like in the UK, Denmark, etc. - Swedens early election rules are/were more restricted).
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« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2014, 03:57:18 PM »

If it is true that the elections have fixed dates then I agree it is likely that the S-MP-V will survive since it is almost impossible for the center-right parties to have a position coalition.  It is easy to get them to agree on a negative coalition, like vote down the budget.

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They do have fixed dates, but an early election is a constitutional possibility. It's not like in Norway, where early elections are not allowed at all.
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« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2014, 04:04:53 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.

Yeah, with a bunch of xenophobic bastards holding the balance of power. Surely this is gonna be a wonderful left-wing government.

SAP cooperation across the aisle with the centre-right is not exactly an alien concept to Swedish politics.
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« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2014, 04:06:48 PM »

The election dates are fixed. So no matter what happen we will have an election in September of 2018. But early elections are still possible, but the term of those elections only last until the ordinary election would have been held. That is why the 1960 election is not an early election. It was the ordinary election following the 1956 election.

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« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2014, 04:07:09 PM »


Sweden had elections in 1958, 1960 and 1970 after 2 years.   

The 1958 election is the only one that counts. in 1970 they had an early election because they changed the entire constitution and eliminated the upper house. It wasn't because of a government falling.

I know, but its still a mid-term. Why wouldn't 1960 count? 1921 with the SAP/Communist split counts as well.

Of course today they have fixed terms, so its only of historical interest.

I don't think 1960 could have been held at a later date. In the event of an early election, the next election would still have to take place four years after the last "regular" election (i.e., not like in the UK, Denmark, etc. - Swedens early election rules are/were more restricted).

Okay. Swedes are weird.
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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2014, 04:09:46 PM »

I wonder whether the Alliance will try to hang on to power after all. The statements of a government minister indicates that they might do so.

How does the Swedish constitution work in such cases? Can a government continue after an election if there is not a majority against it or will the parliament have to start at ground zero after each election with forming a government?
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« Reply #90 on: September 14, 2014, 04:09:48 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.

Yeah, with a bunch of xenophobic bastards holding the balance of power. Surely this is gonna be a wonderful left-wing government.

SAP cooperation across the aisle with the centre-right is not exactly an alien concept to Swedish politics.

Yeah, isn't that quite a common thing in Scandinavia? Hasn't HTS had to get some stuff passed with Venstre instead of Red-Green in Denmark? (or am I thinking of Borgen?)
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« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2014, 04:17:32 PM »

Reinfeldt has announced his resignation.

Both as PM and party leader.
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« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2014, 04:17:44 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.

Yeah, with a bunch of xenophobic bastards holding the balance of power. Surely this is gonna be a wonderful left-wing government.

SAP cooperation across the aisle with the centre-right is not exactly an alien concept to Swedish politics.

Yeah, isn't that quite a common thing in Scandinavia? Hasn't HTS had to get some stuff passed with Venstre instead of Red-Green in Denmark? (or am I thinking of Borgen?)

Yes. Most of the governments important reforms actually.
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« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2014, 04:19:19 PM »

Reinfeldt just announced his resignation, both as Prime Minister and leader of the Moderate Party
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« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2014, 04:19:46 PM »

Reinfeldt has announced his resignation.

Both as PM and party leader.

Bastard. Wink
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« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2014, 04:20:27 PM »

Any good seat breakdowns yet?
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« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2014, 04:21:14 PM »

Great job, Swedes! Welcome to the same nightmarish hell that other European countries have been living through for a while. Apparently you're no better than them.

Being a little overdramatic here, aren't we? Smiley It's still going to be a minority for the left.

Yeah, with a bunch of xenophobic bastards holding the balance of power. Surely this is gonna be a wonderful left-wing government.

SAP cooperation across the aisle with the centre-right is not exactly an alien concept to Swedish politics.

Yeah, isn't that quite a common thing in Scandinavia? Hasn't HTS had to get some stuff passed with Venstre instead of Red-Green in Denmark? (or am I thinking of Borgen?)

Yes, through it should be remembered that Denmark have always been the least Social Democratic country in Scandinavia thanks to a different social structure from our northern neighbours. SAP have more often been able to gain a majority left of centre, while it have been relative rare in Denmark (and never a success).
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« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2014, 04:22:15 PM »

Reinfeldt has announced his resignation.

Both as PM and party leader.

Good riddance.
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« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2014, 04:23:09 PM »

For any further comment on this election, refer to the first quote in my sig.
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« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2014, 04:26:51 PM »

Reinfeldt has announced his resignation.

Both as PM and party leader.

Bastard. Wink

Ursäkta mig! I couldn't let a Swede break this news. Wink
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