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IceSpear
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« on: September 14, 2014, 06:45:59 PM »

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Not the only shot by any means, but definitely our best shot.

To add to this, Hillary has always been popular within the Democratic Party. She had her detractors back in 2008 and was fairly polarizing, but overall, the majority of the party liked both her and Obama and wished they could nominate them both. However, Hillary being a loyal soldier and a good SoS pretty much erased what doubt some Democrats had about her. She kept nearly all her previous supporters (of course), but also added many Obamaites who see her more favorably now that the scars of 2008 have healed. Of course, she's not universally liked, but pretty much as close as you can get. She routinely polls in the ~90% favorability range with Democrats and attracts ~60-65% support in hypothetical primary polls, which are the kind of numbers incumbent presidents typically receive. She has so much hype because she's the overwhelming choice of the party (and the current favorite in the general election). Compare to the GOP, where support tends to be evenly split between 10+ different candidates, so obviously there isn't going to be anywhere near as much hype for any single one of them.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014, 11:46:15 PM »

Certainly some of her supporters are calling those who dare criticize her sexist. Of course these same supporters probably supported Cuomo over Teachout.

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LOL, no.

No, her supporters call people who hold her to different standards than men as sexist, because they are. The biggest culprits being the DC pundit boys' club bubble.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 02:07:17 AM »

Obama is perceived as a 'weak' President, alternatively, Hillary comes across strong and powerful which is something the Democrats are looking for.

Oh yes, this is definitely true as well, and something I forgot to mention.

I think Obama has been decent overall, but there's one area where I'm sure even his most ardent supporters (and detractors, for that matter) can agree where he's been absolutely abysmal: dealing with Congress. He's been far too passive, detached, aloof, and tends to delegate everything to Reid (or sometimes Biden). I think that Hillary will be more likely to put her nose to the grindstone, do some backroom deals, grease the wheels, crack some skulls, etc. in order to get things done.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 10:11:03 AM »

Certainly some of her supporters are calling those who dare criticize her sexist. Of course these same supporters probably supported Cuomo over Teachout.

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LOL, no.

No, her supporters call people who hold her to different standards than men as sexist, because they are. The biggest culprits being the DC pundit boys' club bubble.

Clinton's supporters are the ones holding her to a different standard.  No one else would be able to get away with being a warmonger and have this much support.

Lol. Dubya once had a 90% approval rating and was consistently praised by the media as "strong" and "decisive".
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 01:44:04 PM »

In an alternative universe, this forum is waxing ecstatic about Barack Obama 2016's campaign, because obviously the Democrats made a mistake in the 2008 primaries etc etc.

People like what could have been.

If Hillary won in 2008, Obama would likely be the front runner in 2016 no matter what. Especially since age wouldn't have been an issue for him.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2014, 10:07:57 AM »


Tell that to the True Leftists.
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