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« on: April 09, 2005, 04:59:54 PM »

Campuses that are hotbeds of union activity are largely ones at which the tuition fees are high, indicating that the students place a low priority on price to begin with.  When you consider that a student at Howard is spending twice as much on tuition as an in-state student at the University of Virginia is (two of the schools mentioned in the WP article), it is easy to see why the two schools student bodies have such divergent responses.  Its easy to be in favor of raising other people’s wages above market rates when you feel that it won’t affect you.

Very true.  Many of the opinions of college students are based on insulation on reality, on the fact that the implementation of those views won't affect them.  It will affect them later, but they don't know it yet.

It's easy to be generous with your money when mommy and daddy are paying for everything.

I'm pro-union myself and guess what my parents paid for my college bills?  NOTHING!
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2005, 05:09:29 PM »

Campuses that are hotbeds of union activity are largely ones at which the tuition fees are high, indicating that the students place a low priority on price to begin with.  When you consider that a student at Howard is spending twice as much on tuition as an in-state student at the University of Virginia is (two of the schools mentioned in the WP article), it is easy to see why the two schools student bodies have such divergent responses.  Its easy to be in favor of raising other people’s wages above market rates when you feel that it won’t affect you.

Very true.  Many of the opinions of college students are based on insulation on reality, on the fact that the implementation of those views won't affect them.  It will affect them later, but they don't know it yet.

It's easy to be generous with your money when mommy and daddy are paying for everything.

I'm pro-union myself and guess what my parents paid for my college bills?  NOTHING!

I imagine then that the taxpayers paid at least a portion of your college bills.  You might show them more appreciation when the occasion warrants.

A portion yes, but also my education surely benefits them as well.  Moot argument.  A significant portion however, was paid by myself and I'm still paying for it in the form of student loans that bloodsucking banks are getting a significant portion as interest.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2005, 05:49:13 PM »

...college students are unlikely to become members of a labor union later in life, it is likely that they will change their views in time.

Hah, they should be so lucky.  The main reason for this is not that people with undergraduate degrees make decent money, it is simply that union jobs are a rare and declining portion of the economy.  There is no reason why 'white collar' jobs should not be unionized.

THANK YOU!  I got offered a job at Deloitte in the low $40s and they wanted me to leave my government job at 40 hrs. per week at $38,000 to work 50-60 for them for little more money.  I declined!  By past standards, students coming out of college are getting shafted and can't start their adult lives until they're 30-35.  Dazzleman, if you don't think this is a problem, you're naive.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2005, 05:51:48 PM »


A portion yes, but also my education surely benefits them as well.  Moot argument.  A significant portion however, was paid by myself and I'm still paying for it in the form of student loans that bloodsucking banks are getting a significant portion as interest.

Bloodsucking banks?  Are you suggesting that they're not entitled to repayment of what they lent you?  Keep in mind that it's depositors' money used to lend to you.   I don't understand your mentality at all.  It's a depression-era way of thinking.

Of course they are.  I get soliciations for consolidation constantly.  It's not as bad as predatory lending such as payday cash advances, but considering one could work a summer job in the 1970s and have their parents pay half the tuition, I feel this is a problem.  You need a college degree now to basically attain a living and pay exorbitant loans to a bank to get a degree.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2005, 06:33:56 PM »


Of course they are.  I get soliciations for consolidation constantly.  It's not as bad as predatory lending such as payday cash advances, but considering one could work a summer job in the 1970s and have their parents pay half the tuition, I feel this is a problem.  You need a college degree now to basically attain a living and pay exorbitant loans to a bank to get a degree.

You still haven't said exactly what the banks are doing wrong.  What is wrong with consolidations?  They can actually lower you monthly payment, and if you don't like the terms, you don't have to take it.  You seem to be suggesting that the banks are responsible for the high level of college tuition today, when they have nothing to do with it.  It's not the banks' fault that you had to take out loans for college.  Your thinking on this is strangely incoherent.

banks are profiting from adminsitrative stupidity/lack of government spending of post-secondary education- that's my point.
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