Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014)

[jaichind]

This is a bit old but

YOUGOV CHIEF PETER KELLNER SEES 99% CHANCE OF `NO' WINNING.  He said that there has been a 2% swing toward No just today.

[politicus]

Extremely high turnout is potentially good news for "Yes", I would imagine?

Yes, most likely.

So far turnout hasn't been extremely high.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Extremely high turnout is potentially good news for "Yes" I would think?

Not really... this isn't like the US where high turnout supports 'change' ... this has more of a historic element to it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Many rumours of course; many  of which are quite contradictory. Some patterns appear to be emerging though.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

This is exciting. It must be strange for our Scottish members that half the forum is more emotionally invested in the outcome than they are, though.

Usually secessions are bloody affairs.  There have been very few peaceful secessions in history.  KY from VA in 1792 and WV from VA in 1863 are the only two I know of in US history.

You forgot Maine from Massachusetts in 1820, and de jure, tho not de facto, Vermont was a secession from New York.  Tennessee was an indirect secession from North Carolina, tho it went thru a stage of being the Southwest Territory.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Turnout in Inverclyde: 87.3%

[eric82oslo]

Renfrewshire reports 117,612 votes cast, a turnout of 87.3%.

88.6% in Clackmannanshire.

[bullmoose88]

The turnout in Dundee City is 78.8%

Wasn't that supposed to be a Yes stronghold?

[politicus]

The turnout in Dundee City is 78.8%

Wasn't that supposed to be a Yes stronghold?

Yes.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The turnout in Dundee City is 78.8%

Wasn't that supposed to be a Yes stronghold?

That's pretty sluggish turnout for an urban area.

[angus]

You forgot Maine from Massachusetts in 1820...

Indeed, I did.  As for those others, I can't say I forgot.  Even more embarrassing, I must admit that I didn't even know about them.

Okay, so it maybe happens much more often that I expected.  How was my estimate that there probably aren't more than a dozen countries in the world born of a modern peaceful secession, O wise one?

By the way, neat the Monkey Shoulder isn't bad either.  The meatier flavors and nutmeg come out a bit more, and the finish is just as smooth.  That said, I had to break from it and opt for Malbec for the time being.  I can't keep going on Scotch from now till midnight.  And that's assuming that this is decided by then.  As close as it is in the pre-election polls, it may go like the US presidential election of 2000, and not be decided till six weeks from now.  Actually, that'd be boss.  Give us lots to talk about anyway.  

[Eraserhead]

Many rumours of course; many  of which are quite contradictory. Some patterns appear to be emerging though.

Such a Sam Spade post. No wonder you two got on so well...

[patrick1]

Many rumours of course; many  of which are quite contradictory. Some patterns appear to be emerging though.

Such a Sam Spade post. No wonder you two got on so well...

Haha, I was going to break Al's chops for the Spadean comment too.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Rumours from North Lanarkshire suggest a narrow Yes win is likely; it has been widely assumed that a big Yes win was needed from there.

[muon2]

You forgot Maine from Massachusetts in 1820...

Indeed, I did.  As for those others, I can't say I forgot.  Even more embarrassing, I must admit that I didn't even know about them.

Okay, so it maybe happens much more often that I expected.  How was my estimate that there probably aren't more than a dozen countries in the world born of a modern peaceful secession, O wise one?

By the way, neat the Monkey Shoulder isn't bad either.  The meatier flavors and nutmeg come out a bit more, and the finish is just as smooth.  That said, I had to break from it and opt for Malbec for the time being.  I can't keep going on Scotch from now till midnight.  And that's assuming that this is decided by then.  As close as it is in the pre-election polls, it may go like the US presidential election of 2000, and not be decided till six weeks from now.  Actually, that'd be boss.  Give us lots to talk about anyway.  

I'm at my laptop for the evening now as I finish writing a test. My drink will be Dalwhinnie 15 years old. I don't have much left so I'll rely on some Sam Adams Octoberfest as well.

[politicus]

Extremely high turnout is potentially good news for "Yes" I would think?

Not really... this isn't like the US where high turnout supports 'change' ... this has more of a historic element to it.

People that don't normally vote are estimated to be more likely Yes voters, so a very high turnout would have been good for Yes, but it doesn't look like we will get 90%+. Most likely below 85%, and if Dundee is an indication of the other big cities it could be quite a bit lower. But of course too early to say yet.

[Eraserhead]

Ugh. Sounding more and more like a fairly solid "No" win.

How... dull.

[eric82oslo]

By the way, neat the Monkey Shoulder isn't bad either.  The meatier flavors and nutmeg come out a bit more, and the finish is just as smooth.  That said, I had to break from it and opt for Malbec for the time being.  I can't keep going on Scotch from now till midnight.  

Deserves a picture.


It looks yummie!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Still just rumours though. Remember that in some places counting won't be finished for like four, five hours.

(but if Angus is close - as some bbc guy is currently saying - that's probably not good for Yes)

[eric82oslo]

Ugh. Sounding more and more like a fairly solid "No" win.

How... dull.

Btw, they said on BBC Scotland that the referendum is trending on Twitter in New York.

[njwes]

Here are a couple results feeds with maps for anyone interested:

Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2014/sep/18/-sp-scottish-independence-referendum-results-in-full

BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results

[angus]

I'm at my laptop for the evening now as I finish writing a test. My drink will be Dalwhinnie 15 years old. I don't have much left so I'll rely on some Sam Adams Octoberfest as well.

Ah, Dalwhinnie.  That's a throatier one.  Not bad.  My eponymous, the original Angus McCloud of the Outer Hebrides (RIP and God rest his soul), introduced me to that one, although he generally was a greater fan of the peatier island single malt whisky.  Laphroaig was often his weapon of choice, as I recall.

I actually spent much of the afternoon grading an exam, and haven't been really watching this.  I just a few minutes ago switched on BBCW.  It's really the only story they're covering right now so I assume it'll update regularly.  Listen to that woman's voice.  Man, she's hard to understand.  She sounds like a caricature of Willy the Groundskeeper, except that he was already meant to be a caricature.

[eric82oslo]

West Lothian turnout 86%.

[King]

Turnout figure after turnout figure after turnout figure... sheesh... Are they actually going to read any of the ballots or are they just going to count them?

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Turnout figure after turnout figure after turnout figure... sheesh... Are they actually going to read any of the ballots or are they just going to count them?

Clearly they are making time for MI5 to stuff the ballots