Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014)

[Torie]

Clackmannanshire (in the very middle/center of Scotland):

No: 19,036 (54%)
Yes: 16,350 (46%)

Turnout: 88.6%

0.9% of Scotland's population (3rd smallest of the 32 regions, only Orkney & Shetland is less populated)

Supposedly the most independence spot in Scotland. If so, it's going to lose by a landslide, maybe close to 3-2, with all the polls suggesting a closer result wrong. If.

I see per the above, that 538 ranks it's Braveheart spirit as not at the head of the pack. Whatever.

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Okay, so it maybe happens much more often that I expected.  How was my estimate that there probably aren't more than a dozen countries in the world born of a modern peaceful secession, O wise one?

The breakup of the USSR netted 15 countries alone.

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Clackmannanshire (in the very middle/center of Scotland):

No: 19,036 (54%)
Yes: 16,350 (46%)

Turnout: 88.6%

0.9% of Scotland's population (3rd smallest of the 32 regions, only Orkney & Shetland is less populated)

Supposedly the most independence spot in Scotland. If so, it's going to lose by a landslide, maybe close to 3-2, with all the polls suggesting a closer result wrong. If.

Eh, it'll fail, but I would be shocked if didn't break 43% or so.

[eric82oslo]

BBC Scotland reports that according to the local SNP leader in West Lothian, the votes there are 53% no & 45% yes, in other words about 54-46. West Lothian is a very SNP supporting District (SNP +7%).

East Renfrewshire is 90.4% - new Scottish electoral record
Stirling turnout is 90.1%

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

It's only one region, guys. Sure, it may be a bellwether, but there's no guarantee. I would caution against even thinking about the calling the race based on this ONE region.

[eric82oslo]

Glasgow: 364,000 votes. 75% turnout "only" (said to be "very very high" by BBC Scotland, cause it's an area where "traditionally not many people vote" ).

[politicus]

Guys, I mixed Clackmannanshire and Renfrewshire in my tired head. I deleted it almost immediately, but somebody had already quoted it. Please stop quoting my post.

[jaichind]

Glasgow: 364,000 votes. 75% turnout "only" (said to be "very very high" by BBC Scotland, cause it's an area where "traditionally not many people vote" ).

This is another blow for Yes.  They would most likely wanted a higher turnout here.

[YL]

Highest turnouts seem to be in the better off Glasgow suburbs: East Renfrewshire and East Dunbartonshire.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I would caution about using past election results as anything more than a vague guide; that's not quite how things have been lining up (and never would have been: it's been the case for at least thirty years that a lot of Labour supporters have had views more 'nationalist' than the party they vote for, for instance).

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

And the clock strikes 2 in the U.K. Per 538, another seven regions should report between now and 3:00.

[angus]

Okay, so it maybe happens much more often that I expected.  How was my estimate that there probably aren't more than a dozen countries in the world born of a modern peaceful secession, O wise one?

The breakup of the USSR netted 15 countries alone.

I thought about that, but I'm going to have to call foul.  First, it wasn't peaceful secession.  Well, there's really no second.  It's just that it doesn't really amount to the phenomenon which we're observing herein.  Or, more accurately, the phenomenon that we're not observing.  Breakup of USSR was just more like a pantbutton popping off when a fat guy eats one too many microwaveable convenience store chimichangas.

[YL]

Orkney: Yes 4883 No 10004

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Here comes Orkney!

Edit: YL got there first.

[eric82oslo]

Orkney:

No: 10,004 (67.2%)
Yes: 4,883 (32.8%)

0.4% of overall Scottish population (smallest district)

83.7% turnout

After 2 (of 32) districts, including 1.3% of the electorate, it's:

Yes: 42%
No: 58%

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Overall:

No: 57.76%
Yes: 42.24%

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Is 33% high for Orkney?

[eric82oslo]

Is 33% high for Orkney?

Orkney is the 3rd most anti-SNP district after Shetland and East Renfrewshire. It was -20% with SNP in 2011. It's not particularily low I think. If anything, it's perhaps somewhat on the higher end. (But what do I know.)

[YL]

Orkney had the highest No vote in 1997, on both questions.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Catalunya is probably really upset right now if the "no" predictions are accurate.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

telegraph.co.uk:

02.10: Dan Snow, the television historian, who ran the 'let's stay together' campaign, has been speaking to The Telegraph in Glasgow
 Christopher Hope, Senior Political Correspondent, is in Glasgow and sends this:
Britain nearly broke up because the politicians failed to take the threat from the separatists in ScotIand seriously, Dan Snow, the TV historian, has said.
Mr Snow who led a prominent campaign to get people to sign a pledge to save the Union said he could not understand the complacency among Westminster politicians in the months before Thursday's vote.
Speaking to The Daily Telegraph at the No Thanks campaign’s party in Glasgow he said: “This referendum campaign has been in the diary for years.
“The Westminster establishment was not taking it seriously. I was in London, I was looking around London and I could not understand why Ed Miliband was not living in Glasgow.
“This country had the potential to fall about and his Labour party was being eclipsed.
“If it is a narrow result I think our politicians have failed to sell the case for an amazing country. And a country that is self evidently flourishing and succeeding.”
He added that it was “tragic” that so many people appeared to have embraced nationalism in the Scottish referendum.
“It is heart breaking so I will find it quite hard to celebrate tomorrow,” he added.

[jaichind]

GBP has jumped from 1.6421 to 1.6517 since 8:25PM EST (last hour or so)

[eric82oslo]

Scottish Borders turnout is 87.4%.
The no vote will be big in this border district.

[justfollowingtheelections]

But Catalunya would surely vote YES.

Well yes but their chances of getting their own referendum are probably even smaller now.

[Niemeyerite]

But Catalunya would surely vote YES.

Well yes but their chances of getting their own referendum are probably even smaller now.

I'm not sure Catalunya would vote Yes, but I'm sure this makes the referendum a bit more difficult to happen on November.