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« Reply #250 on: September 18, 2014, 09:34:36 PM »

Inverclyde:

27,243 yes
27,329 no
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« Reply #251 on: September 18, 2014, 09:34:56 PM »

What were the expectations for Inverclyde?
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« Reply #252 on: September 18, 2014, 09:35:30 PM »

Ugh

"Former SNP MSP Andrew Wilson has just declared that he thinks the SNP should get involved in talks about more devolution for Scotland, should indeed Scotland vote "No" in the referendum.

This is the first sign that the SNP may well try to use their vote in this referendum to push the demand for more devolution yet further, rather than stand aside as they did on the occasion of the Scottish constitutional convention."
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« Reply #253 on: September 18, 2014, 09:36:22 PM »

Overall margin tightens considerably:

No: 54.82%
Yes: 45.18%
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« Reply #254 on: September 18, 2014, 09:36:26 PM »


538 says it was -3 SNP... so, not so bad for Yes, actually.
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« Reply #255 on: September 18, 2014, 09:36:38 PM »


Inverclyde is less (-3%) SNP than the rest. So this should be somewhat joyful for Salmon I imagine.
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« Reply #256 on: September 18, 2014, 09:37:28 PM »

This is the sort of Tory panic that I don't really understand atm

"There have been two quite remarkable and contributions to the BBC's programmes from Conservative spokespeople this evening.

First of all Ruth Davidson, who once described the 2012 Scotland Act as a "line in the sand that should not be crossed" has indicated that Scotland requires considerable further devolution.

Meanwhile Lord Forsyth, once one of the principal opponents of the Scottish Parliament, has now declared that he thinks Holyrood should be given even more devolution than it has been promised by any of the Unionist parties so far.

It looks as though one consequence of this campaign is to have brought the Scottish Conservatives very firmly into the devolution camp."

Sorry I'll stop mucking up the thread now Wink + Tongue
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« Reply #257 on: September 18, 2014, 09:38:08 PM »

Ugh

"Former SNP MSP Andrew Wilson has just declared that he thinks the SNP should get involved in talks about more devolution for Scotland, should indeed Scotland vote "No" in the referendum.

This is the first sign that the SNP may well try to use their vote in this referendum to push the demand for more devolution yet further, rather than stand aside as they did on the occasion of the Scottish constitutional convention."

This is a silly comment. What else would they do.
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« Reply #258 on: September 18, 2014, 09:38:50 PM »

East Lothian is expected to declare shortly. Population is just north of 80,000.
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« Reply #259 on: September 18, 2014, 09:39:40 PM »

Nothing is certain, other than that the 'yes' campaign has already won relative to expectations. Anything over 45% and the 'no' will have a soulless victory, and certainly not a commanding voice for the status quo.
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« Reply #260 on: September 18, 2014, 09:40:08 PM »


538 says it was -3 SNP... so, not so bad for Yes, actually.

Yes had thought they'd win it though (albeit not by a huge margin).
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« Reply #261 on: September 18, 2014, 09:40:34 PM »

East Lothian is expected to declare shortly. Population is just north of 80,000.

My understanding is that East Lothian is a bellwether district.  
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« Reply #262 on: September 18, 2014, 09:41:57 PM »

Inverclyde was widely expected to vote Yes.
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« Reply #263 on: September 18, 2014, 09:42:45 PM »


538 says it was -3 SNP... so, not so bad for Yes, actually.

Yes had thought they'd win it though (albeit not by a huge margin).

The graph had it as a likely No with 2 of 10 (same as Western Isles actually).
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« Reply #264 on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:19 PM »


Inverclyde is less (-3%) SNP than the rest. So this should be somewhat joyful for Salmon I imagine.

Eric SNP vote shares are pretty useless, there are SNP voters that are going to vote N0 (Ive seen poll numbers as high as 22%) and plenty of Labour voters that are going to vote Yes.
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« Reply #265 on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:33 PM »

Just 2.3% has been reported, so "Yes" would need 50.2% of the remaining vote to turn this around, according to Alberto Nardelli of The Guardian
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« Reply #266 on: September 18, 2014, 09:47:26 PM »

Just 2.3% has been reported, so "Yes" would need 50.2% of the remaining vote to turn this around, according to Alberto Nardelli of The Guardian

That was before Inverclyde.  And to turn it around, Yes would have to start winning in unexpected places, something they haven't done all night; in fact, the opposite has been true.
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« Reply #267 on: September 18, 2014, 09:48:25 PM »

Nothing is certain, other than that the 'yes' campaign has already won relative to expectations. Anything over 45% and the 'no' will have a soulless victory, and certainly not a commanding voice for the status quo.

What does this even mean? I've never understood the obsession people put into a few random points up and down the margin. It always comes off as silly and immature (Antonio's whining when Hollande prevailed by a closer margin coming to mind).

No could prevail at a 5% margin or a 15% margin, and the outcome is exactly the same. At the end of the day, the win is all that matters.
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« Reply #268 on: September 18, 2014, 09:51:17 PM »

Nothing is certain, other than that the 'yes' campaign has already won relative to expectations. Anything over 45% and the 'no' will have a soulless victory, and certainly not a commanding voice for the status quo.

What does this even mean? I've never understood the obsession people put into a few random points up and down the margin. It always comes off as silly and immature (Antonio's whining when Hollande prevailed by a closer margin coming to mind).

No could prevail at a 5% margin or a 15% margin, and the outcome is exactly the same. At the end of the day, the win is all that matters.

Agreed.  At this point, the fact that it was expected to be close is enough to make the referendum have a lasting impact.  The result could be 49% - 51% or 35% - 65%, and I don't see anything different happening tomorrow other than Salmond's career ending quicker and the No camp feeling foolish for worrying.
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« Reply #269 on: September 18, 2014, 09:51:22 PM »

Just 2.3% has been reported, so "Yes" would need 50.2% of the remaining vote to turn this around, according to Alberto Nardelli of The Guardian

That was before Inverclyde.  And to turn it around, Yes would have to start winning in unexpected places, something they haven't done all night; in fact, the opposite has been true.

True, but we haven't had any of the big cities yet, so it could be done, however unlikely it is.
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« Reply #270 on: September 18, 2014, 09:52:43 PM »

Dundee and Renfrewshire coming in now
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« Reply #271 on: September 18, 2014, 09:52:50 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2014, 09:58:21 PM by eric82oslo »

Renfrewshire:

3.1% of electorate

Total: 117,612

Yes: 55,466 (47.2%)
No: 62,067 (52.8%)

Turnout: 87.3%


Dundee:

2.8% of electorate

Total: 93,592

Yes: 53,620 (57.3%)
No: 39,830 (42.7%)

Turnout: 78.8%

And we have our first yes victory haha. Cheesy
People are over the moon there.

After 6 out of 32 districts counted - with 9.7% of the electorate - the count now looks like this:

Yes: 49.1%
No: 50.9%

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« Reply #272 on: September 18, 2014, 09:54:00 PM »

Hashemite,

Get rid of that horrible moving picture that you posted when you edited my post.  Doing so implies that I would post such a thing.  I would never post such a thing.  All I said in that post is that you should get a grip on your authoritarian tendencies and let this thread evolve.  If any poster other than a moderator misrepresented another poster in that way, he would receive death points.  Your actions are unethical, even by the standards of this forum, and I challenge you to either rectify the situation or defend your actions here and now in this thread.
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« Reply #273 on: September 18, 2014, 09:54:04 PM »

Dundee City:
78.8% turnout
Yes - 53,620
No - 39,880
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« Reply #274 on: September 18, 2014, 09:54:08 PM »

Inverclyde was widely expected to vote Yes.

49.92%
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