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Clarko95 📚💰📈
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« on: September 18, 2014, 08:26:08 PM »

Just for the sake of argument, if Yes did win, would Scotland remain part of the EU? Would they have to apply and wait years for admission? Would they be forced to adopt the Euro?

They would almost certainly have to reapply as an independent nation, which would take a couple years, but nothing crazy (as long as they don't completely flunk the transition to independence).

But no, no nation is "forced" to adopt the Euro.
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 08:46:40 PM »

Just for the sake of argument, if Yes did win, would Scotland remain part of the EU? Would they have to apply and wait years for admission? Would they be forced to adopt the Euro?

They would almost certainly have to reapply as an independent nation, which would take a couple years, but nothing crazy (as long as they don't completely flunk the transition to independence).

But no, no nation is "forced" to adopt the Euro.

Sort of. If you wanna join the EU and meet the necessary requirements for membership of the EMU you have to join it. Of the existing EU-members UK and Denmark have exceptions and Sweden artificially make sure they don't meet all the requirements, Scotland could do the same, but it would be frowned upon.
What would the EU even do if a nation fulfilled all the requirements but didn't adopt the Euro? Kick them out? Put sanctions on them? Wage financial warfare?
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:33 PM »

Just 2.3% has been reported, so "Yes" would need 50.2% of the remaining vote to turn this around, according to Alberto Nardelli of The Guardian
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 11:32:33 PM »

So what's taking so long for the final numbers to come in?
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 01:31:00 PM »
« Edited: September 22, 2014, 01:39:29 PM by Clarko95 »

So here's a make-shift map with the final results using afleitch's template, with all the wards for each district colored to reflect the district's results.



5.3% uniform swing to "yes" (tie vote).

I like the 4 distinct bands of voting here, and how Edinburgh flips Yes (jk I looked at the wrong district). Would the map change much if it was a 51% Yes - 49% No vote?
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