Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014)

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Interesting...

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Catalunya is probably really upset right now if the "no" predictions are accurate.

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But Catalunya would surely vote YES.

Well yes but their chances of getting their own referendum are probably even smaller now.

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Just for the sake of argument, if Yes did win, would Scotland remain part of the EU? Would they have to apply and wait years for admission? Would they be forced to adopt the Euro?

They'd have to reapply for admission. No clue about Currency.

All countries that join the Eurozone are required to adopt the Euro at some point.  But there are ways out if they don't want to (see Sweden).

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Wow this count is slow....

It's ridiculously slow if you take into account Scotland's tiny population.

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"Yes" supporters in Glasgow:

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What are the chances of a 32/32 for "No"?

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I'm getting the impression there's an urban -rural divide here.  If "Yes" wins in Glasgow by a huge margin but fails miserably everywhere else, I guess that means the "Yes" camp didn't do a good job getting its message out outside of big cities.

Am I wrong to assume this?  I'm asking because I don't know much about Scotland.

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I'm getting the impression there's an urban -rural divide here.  If "Yes" wins in Glasgow by a huge margin but fails miserably everywhere else, I guess that means the "Yes" camp didn't do a good job getting its message out outside of big cities.

Am I wrong to assume this?  I'm asking because I don't know much about Scotland.

Also ideology. The Yes campaign in Glasgow has been more about socialism than nationalism. Its very different from the Tartan Tories in the NE.

Well yes but taking that into account it seems that "Yes" underperformed in rural areas while it did better than expected in Dundee (which is a somewhat big city if I'm not mistaken).

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No: 53.13%
Yes: 46.87%

Can we post total number of votes rather than percentages?  They're more interesting at this point IMO.

Including Falkirk, "No" seems to be leading by more than 40,000 votes.

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Yeah it's over...

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There will be a Yes party at George Square in Glasgow at 2pm local time regardless of the result

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Map:

Well Scotland is a large country area-wise and I guess people who live hours away from Glasgow didn't feel they had anything to gain from being independent.  Glasgow would have liked to become the new London, but I guess the rest of the country thought, if we're going to trade London for Glasgow we should just stick with what we know.  When the Gaelic speaking Outer Hebrides vote for "No", you know the "Yes" campaign did something wrong.

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Be wary of making crude demographic assumptions, btw. There were some very working class areas where Yes badly underperformed expectations (i.e. it wasn't just the poor results in rural Scotland). Historically Presbyterian working class areas perhaps? Admittedly you'd need to look at detailed figures that don't exist to be sure. Still, I wonder whether some of the patterns in general were heavily cultural?

Ramble ramble, five thirty am.

can you elaborate?

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EDINBURGH SAYS NO

YES - 123,927

NO - 194,638


Can someone btw explain to me why Dundee was so in favor of "Yes"?  Is there a reason they're more nationalist?

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I'm guessing the Highland result isn't going to be announced anytime soon...