All US/Canadian big 4 pro teams ranked

[dead0man]

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My teams are 11,19 and 38, how'd you do?


1.   San Antonio Spurs   
2.   Anaheim Ducks   
3.   Seattle Seahawks   
4.   Memphis Grizzlies   
5.   Los Angeles Kings   
6.   Tampa Bay Lightning
7.   Oklahoma City Thunder   
8.   Green Bay Packers   
9.   Dallas Mavericks   
10.   Chicago Blackhawks   
11.   St. Louis Blues   
12.   Dallas Stars   
13.   Indianapolis Colts   
14.   New Orleans Saints   
15.   Los Angeles Angels   


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[patrick1]

113, 116, 118, and 121 yep....

[Grumpier Than Thou]

27, 47, 66, 80

[dead0man]

113, 116, 118, and 121 yep....

ouch..ouch

[patrick1]

113, 116, 118, and 121 yep....

ouch..ouch

Haha, I really don't think it is possible to top that without trying. Although Mets have good young pitching, Jets may manage to sneak into playoffs, and the Islanders will have a new arena in Brooklyn to call home which should increase revenue.  Hope springs eternal.  The Knicks I have no bright side, especially with Little Jimmy Dolan at the helm.

[rpryor03]

38, 80, 101, and 21.

[Boris]

10, 53, 77, 117.

113, 116, 118, and 121 yep....

Conduct this survey in October 1986 and all your teams might be near the top!

[The Dowager Mod]

9,12,54,107 local teams.

[Hatman 🍁]

#74, #81, #92

And lol Toronto Maple Leafs in last place. Makes so much sense... having to pay a small fortune to watch the worst hockey imaginable. 

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

LOL!  The Rangers are squarely in the bottom half after making the playoffs 8 of 9 years, going to the Final, renovating the building into the best arena in the NHL, and establishing themselves as the 2nd most valuable NHL franchise behind the Leafs?  

Horrible List.

EDIT: Okay, we got murdered on affordability, but the tickets always run high on the secondary market, as well.  People sell their upper level tix for $100-120 BECAUSE THEY CAN.  It's an arena in the middle of Manhattan that seats 18,200.  I don't know how they expect the Rangers to make that cheap.  Frankly, as far as fan experience goes, would you rather pay $100 to go to a packed house for a late March Rangers playoff push, or sit at a meaningless Panthers game in an empty arena for $20?  The Panthers should be paying me $20 to go sit there and watch that dreadful team. 

[Donerail]

Local teams are 6, 35, and 84 (Lightning, Rays, Bucs).

[ilikeverin]

Insofar as I care: 13, 18, 20, 37.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Big 4 pro leagues are NFL, NBA, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball.

[Gass3268]

8, 23, 120

[Grumpier Than Thou]

The Big 4 pro leagues are NFL, NBA, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball.

you...you what?

[dead0man]

He's trying (stress on the trying) to make a joke that college basketball and football are "pros".  They are not.

(that's not to say certain athletes on certain teams don't get many rewards they shouldn't according to the rules, but it's certainly not all or even a majority)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I suppose that since college basketball these days is dominated by largely one-and-done players one could argue that MLB and not NCAA Basketball should be considered the fourth big 4 pro sport, but NCAA Football is certainly more relevant as a pro sport than the NHL in the US, notwithstanding the fact that the owners have been allowed to collude to hold down their player salaries, tho not those of their coaches. Nick Saban at Alabama makes more than all but a few NFL head coaches.

[NewYorkExpress]

47 (New Jersey Devils), 70 (New York Rangers), 76 (Brooklyn Nets), 79 (New York Giants), 82 (Buffalo Bills), 86 (New York Yankees), 113 (New York Jets), 116 (New York Islanders), 118 (New York Mets), 121 (New York Knicks)

[dead0man]

but NCAA Football is certainly more relevant as a pro sport than the NHL in the US,

Except it's not, by definition, a "pro" sport.  More relevant, sure, but not pro.

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I agree completely that college football is too big and hurts colleges more than it helps, but until the NFL creates a proper minor leagues, we're going to have this non-perfect system.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

but NCAA Football is certainly more relevant as a pro sport than the NHL in the US,

Except it's not, by definition, a "pro" sport.  More relevant, sure, but not pro.

It's not amateur (save for Division III), and hasn't been since the 19th century.  If it were amateur, players wouldn't be getting a scholarship for playing.  By definition, since it is not amateur it is pro.

[dead0man]

I can play that game too.

They don't get paid to play, so they ain't pros.  If they ain't pros, they must be amateurs.


But that's silly semantics.....From wiki

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You are, of course, free to look at any way you want, but the rest of us will keep calling them amateurs and not pros.

[7,052,770]

Except that most college football players are paid under the table in the major conferences. There's a reason they call us the $EC. (Or, as I prefer, $€¢)

[Smash255]

76,79,86,116

[nolesfan2011]

2 really good teams (Miami Heat and Tampa Bay Lightning) 2 really bad teams (Miami Dolphins and NY Mets)