Opinion of "True Leftists"

[IceSpear]

Pretty disgusting ideology. They seem to support a new murderous dictator or genocidal terror group every month, have little regard for the human rights of non-Westerners, and oppose policies that actually help the Western workers they care about because the policies are not perfectly socialist or whatever.

This exactly.

Honestly, I would be OK with True Leftists if they would just stick to domestic economic issues, where they tend to be naive and useless, but they at least have their heart in the right place. Foreign Policy True Leftism, on the other hand, is a force of evil that needs to be crushed. I seriously have more respect for neocons than from the "let's do nothing" crowd.

This.

Honestly, True Leftists wouldn't be that bad if they would get their head out of the clouds and realize that politics is the art of the possible. Writing in a candidate who's been dead for centuries isn't going to do a damn thing to get you closer to your left wing utopia, but supporting the person closest to your ideological views (even if they're very far away) will at least make the country incrementally closer to your left wing utopia, which is better than nothing. And no, your viva la revolucion is not on the horizon, despite the fact that you guys claim is it close to happening as often as people peddle end of the world conspiracy theories. Of course, I expect the typical (and obviously incorrect) response about how both parties are the same and thus there is no point in supporting Democrats. As we all know, Ted Cruz and Elizabeth Warren are two sides of the same coin.

[IceSpear]

"Well we're not opposing all dictatorships, so might as well not oppose any of them."

^^^Literally True Leftist "logic."

It's cute that you think that "protecting human rights" or "spreading democracy" has anything to do with our motives for Middle Eastern intervention.

The people ISIS is raping, murdering, and enslaving don't give a fuçk what our motives are.

ISIS has gained a huge number of recruits since bombing began. Best provide humanitarian aid and maybe arm the Kurds. Regardless of whether the US bombing effort destroys ISIS (which I highly doubt), the underlying causes of the sectarian conflicts in Syria and Iraq are being palliated at best, much like the heavy-handed and utterly unaware US bombings of Libya and Serbia in the past.

And I think it's worth mentioning that every reform in American history can be traced to the organizing efforts (and the bourgeois's fear of revolution) of "True Leftists". Of course, liberal revisionists think that Roosevelt and Johnson simply dropped programs from the sky.

And had Roosevelt/Johnson and Congress listened to True Leftist legislative "strategy", all those programs and reforms would've been trashed for not being pure enough. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is a crucial aspect of True Leftist ideology.

[IceSpear]

I don't know much about True Leftism other than being cited by someone in an old thread as one of them. 

Impossible since you self-identify as a Democrat.

[IceSpear]

"Well we're not opposing all dictatorships, so might as well not oppose any of them."

^^^Literally True Leftist "logic."

It's cute that you think that "protecting human rights" or "spreading democracy" has anything to do with our motives for Middle Eastern intervention.

The people ISIS is raping, murdering, and enslaving don't give a fuçk what our motives are.

ISIS has gained a huge number of recruits since bombing began. Best provide humanitarian aid and maybe arm the Kurds. Regardless of whether the US bombing effort destroys ISIS (which I highly doubt), the underlying causes of the sectarian conflicts in Syria and Iraq are being palliated at best, much like the heavy-handed and utterly unaware US bombings of Libya and Serbia in the past.

And I think it's worth mentioning that every reform in American history can be traced to the organizing efforts (and the bourgeois's fear of revolution) of "True Leftists". Of course, liberal revisionists think that Roosevelt and Johnson simply dropped programs from the sky.

And had Roosevelt/Johnson and Congress listened to True Leftist legislative "strategy", all those programs and reforms would've been trashed for not being pure enough. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is a crucial aspect of True Leftist ideology.

No, the point is that all those social programs were deliberate (and in FDR's case explicit) attempts to preserve the fundamental status quo. Similarly I am not deluded enough to think that the Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same--but once you cut out most of the semantic arguments and most of the posturing, they're not too far apart. This is why "working within the Democratic Party" or "voting for the lesser of two evils" has been such a failed strategy for so long--you cannot change a party whose fundamental purpose is to protect society's elites. I'd like to peddle this blog post by one of our posters for further reading.

The Tea Party has certainly changed the direction of the GOP.