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Senator windjammer
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2014, 06:43:47 pm »
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« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2014, 06:52:09 pm »
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2014, 08:40:04 am »
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Aye

It's not the finished product, but I think this can be worked on further.
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2014, 09:16:01 am »
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Sections three and five will need amended before I can give this bill my full support. Section five would have a teenager getting better pay (in a restaurant) than the typical adult resturant employee.

19.00*25.00 = 475 for a teenage part time employee
25*10 = 250 for a full time adult employee

That's during the five week summers they're allowed such hours.

If a teen does that just once that will give the teen an annual income of 5,952.00$ Atlasian Dollars. With the lion share of that being made in the summer. If a teen does it twice they make 7,942.00 AD. If you add even that for the Christmas/Winter break it will exceed the average income of a full time adult in the same position not including potential paid vacation benefits. Allowing such a high minimum wage would be highly damaging to adults trying to maintain hours worked for those benefits to work most effectively.

Clause 3 is in the current version of the bill.
I can see your opposition to Clause 5, but just remember that by 2018, the federal minimum wage will be $18.00. I felt that minors should get more than that, but I am willing to skip that part totally.


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Two oppositions from this amendment:
1) The first is that Ii really oppose child labor in any form. I don't believe a 15-years-old, someone whodoesn't have the legal age of majority, should work. They should focuse on their study. If they absolutely need money, I would prefer helping their parents by child allowance, etc,...
2) I would like the federal minimum wage to be respected. Ii don't see why these people should get a higher minimum wage than the other workers.

It's quite a common practice for teenagers of that age to get summer jobs. I would say let them, if they want to, this can really be a great experience - I had one last summer, too (admitedly I was 16 then, but still), and it certainly didn't hurt me. The thing is that we need to look carefully that their education is not disturbed by it, which this amendment prohibits.
As I said, I am willing to skip the part with the higher minimum wage.

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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2014, 11:44:51 am »
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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2014, 02:37:45 pm »
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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2014, 06:36:13 pm »
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« Reply #32 on: Today at 12:29:11 pm »
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Cranberry, if you really want to be sure that won't hurt their education, you just have to vote no Wink.
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