Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I want to introduce Free Trade bills for Indonesia, Taiwan and the UAE. But seperatly or all as one? I'm asking Senators opinions on this.

No fair, I was going to do Taiwan.

[MasterJedi]

I want to introduce Free Trade bills for Indonesia, Taiwan and the UAE. But seperatly or all as one? I'm asking Senators opinions on this.

No fair, I was going to do Taiwan.

You snooze, you lose!

[Χahar]

The UAE is an absolute monarchy, wtf?

[Senator MaxQue]

UAE is illegal under the original LGBT trade law, because it applies death penalty to homosexuals.

[Purple State]

UAE is illegal under the original LGBT trade law, because it applies death penalty to homosexuals.

Well it would be legal, but the SoEA likely would (and certainly should) immediately suspend it until they reformed those practices. I have to say I wouldn't support that sort of bill anyway (not that I will likely have a chance to vote on it).

[HappyWarrior]

I also feel that a Taiwanese FTA would drastically harm relations with the PRC.

[afleitch]

I also feel that a Taiwanese FTA would drastically harm relations with the PRC.

Quite; it's a diplomatic nightmare

[DownWithTheLeft]

I urge all senators to oppose the massive intrusion of freedom in the bill Sen. Fritz's has just proposed.  Atlasia has a long history of party switching and waiting 60 days in between party switching is absurd

[Senator MaxQue]

I urge all senators to oppose the massive intrusion of freedom in the bill Sen. Fritz's has just proposed.  Atlasia has a long history of party switching and waiting 60 days in between party switching is absurd

For a very rare time in my life, I completely agree with DWTL. That bill is a threat to democracy by deleting the freedom to be a member of the political party we want.

[Jayhawker]

I urge all senators to oppose the massive intrusion of freedom in the bill Sen. Fritz's has just proposed.  Atlasia has a long history of party switching and waiting 60 days in between party switching is absurd

For a very rare time in my life, I completely agree with DWTL. That bill is a threat to democracy by deleting the freedom to be a member of the political party we want.

I agree with DWTL and Senator Maxque. While it isn't great to be constantly switching parties, I don't see any good reason why it should be outlawed.

[President Marokai]

I agree with the sentiment of the bill. But I think 60 days is way too much. I'd be fine with only changing parties once a week or something.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I agree with the sentiment of the bill. But I think 60 days is way too much. I'd be fine with only changing parties once a week or something.

Yes, akin to a "mail-in" voter registration change delay. Real life you can't just type something on the internet and change parties. A week is the longest though, I'd prefer three days.

[Fritz]

Agreed, sixty days is too long.  I will accept an amendment shortening the period of time as friendly, when this gets to the floor.

[Sibboleth]

A better idea would be to allow parties to regulate their own membership.

[Lief]

Putting the time down to 1-2 weeks is good, I think.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

A better idea would be to allow parties to regulate their own membership.

     Also, such a bill would be permitted under Article V, Section 1, Clause 8. As far as I know, there is no Constitutional justification for the Senate having the power to regulate how often a citizen may change parties.

[Alexander Hamilton]

A better idea would be to allow parties to regulate their own membership.

No. Parties want members. Parties would only want to regulate when members are able to leave.

[Χahar]

A better idea would be to allow parties to regulate their own membership.

No. Parties want members. Parties would only want to regulate when members are able to leave.

Let the parties decide whether they want members. Not all parties are like yours, see.

[HappyWarrior]

I think that tmth's legislation is a regional matter rather than a national one.

[I left.]

The legislation regarding motorcycles is awfully draconian.

[Rowan]

The legislation regarding motorcycles is awfully draconian.

That was my problem with it.

[Jayhawker]

The legislation regarding motorcycles is awfully draconian.

How so? Actually, the punishments for violating Section A are slightly lower than America's, I believe.

[Rowan]

Is number 1 of Franzl's bill really necessary? Can't we just have 2 and 3?

[I left.]

Is number 1 of Franzl's bill really necessary? Can't we just have 2 and 3?

I don't mind.

[President Marokai]

Former Senator PiT and myself have worked together to produce this bill...

Party Self-Regulation Bill

1. Any organized political party shall have the power to include in its bylaws descriptions of actions taken by party members that may lead to their expulsion from the party.

2. If any member of an organized political party acts in violation of any bylaw enacted in accordance with section 1 of this act, the chairman of that party must, within 7 days, publically notify the Secretary of Forum Affairs of this fact, who will then officially remove the member in question from that party's membership. The member in question will automatically become an independent.

3. The chairman of an organized political party may also propose a motion to expel any registered member from that party. The motion shall then be voted on in a manner specified by the party bylaws. Should the motion succeed, the party chairman must, within 7 days, notify the Secretary of Forum Affairs of this fact, who will then officially remove the member in question from that party's membership. The member in question will automatically become an independent.

4. If the expelled member chooses to do so, they may seek mediation in the form of a third party agreed upon by the member in question and the party chairman. The mediator shall listen to both parties' cases. If the mediator rules in favor of the expelled member, the member shall be permitted back into the party immediately.

5. After a period of 60 days, if the party chairman wishes to remove the ban on an expelled member, they shall publically lift the ban. The party bylaws may be amended to include a method by which the membership of the party may negate this decision.

Well this certainly won't be challenged in court.

(In fact I might do it myself, should it pass.)