Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Napoleon]

If I were a Senator, I would neither want nor need annoying PMs. Imagine having to remind your real life Senator that they have to go vote!

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If I were a Senator, I would neither want nor need annoying PMs. Imagine having to remind your real life Senator that they have to go vote!

they too have people who tell them when the vote is. and they paid a lot more than we do.

[Napoleon]

If I were a Senator, I would neither want nor need annoying PMs. Imagine having to remind your real life Senator that they have to go vote!

they too have people who tell them when the vote is. and they paid a lot more than we do.

They have a staff but they seem to place a higher importance on making the vote than our Senators do. There is no reason for complacency when improvements can be made.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If I were a Senator, I would neither want nor need annoying PMs. Imagine having to remind your real life Senator that they have to go vote!

they too have people who tell them when the vote is. and they paid a lot more than we do.

They have a staff but they seem to place a higher importance on making the vote than our Senators do. There is no reason for complacency when improvements can be made.

I agree, but I think the PMs helpful so Senators don't miss a vote without knowing it.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Why PMing me? I never missed a damn vote!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am going to die. I have just posted the next bill THREE ING times. Is it there? You bet your sweet ass it isn't.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A Visual aid to illustrate my torment:

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

In an attempt to fix some of my internet problems, I think I spent two hours and succeeded only so far as to scramble my AOL software even more. Now I have too dialable versions on my computer (9.5 and Security Edition).


I did managed to isolate the scrolling issue. I logged on as a guest with a different AOL account and the scrolling issue vanished. So that means it isn't IE, its a setting related to my AOL account, which I expected all along, I just had the wrong starting point of the problem.

[Rowan]

I like the PM's by the way. If I forgot to sign in on the site a day, the e-mail that I get is nice to remind me.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Don't PM me. PM lazy bastards, not me: a model Senator who never missed a vote. Don't, or I'll sue you for harassment.

[Yelnoc]

So, you guys might want to consider passing constitutional amendments to fix the dates of the elections, ban citizens from running for office in regions they do not reside, and post their registration in the registration thread.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

So, you guys might want to consider passing constitutional amendments to fix the dates of the elections, ban citizens from running for office in regions they do not reside, and post their registration in the registration thread.

I introduced an amendment to change the election calendar.  The Constitution, as I read it, gives the power of determining declaration procedures to the Senate for Federal offices, so that can be done by a statute/amendment to election law.  I don't think the registration issue would require an amendment either.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Much appreciated, Shua and Bgwah.

[tmthforu94]

Does it have to be a Constitutional Amendment? That would take more time, I would think. A simple law was implemented to require people to register in the "New Register Thread", and I don't see why we shouldn't do the same thing for the others.

[bgwah]

The elections times are currently set by the Constitution and thus require an amendment to be altered.

[tmthforu94]

The elections times are currently set by the Constitution and thus require an amendment to be altered.

I know that, I'm referring to the amendments requiring that you post in certain threads. I bill has already passed requiring you have to register in "New Register Thread", so that one's moot.

[Barnes]

Question to the PPT:

Does the Constitution specifically state that ONLY Senators are able to introduce legislation.  I was just thinking it would be very nice to amend the Senate' rules and allow Cabinet members to easily introduce bills, of course, they wouldn't be allowed to vote on them.

[Napoleon]

Why not just ask a Senator?

[Barnes]

Why not just ask a Senator?

Ah, you misunderstand. I don't have any at the moment to introduce, and I have always been able to find a helping Senator in the past to do so.

I just think it would be interesting to the game to let the Cabinet almost transform into a Cabinet out of a Parliamentary system.

This is just my opinion, no problem if it can't be done.

[Napoleon]

I would not support the executive forcing bills for consideration, sorry. There is too much potential for abuse by flooding us with legislation to consider.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Ah, nope.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think the current system is best because it encourages the administration to establish relationships with certain or even all of the Senators as well as increases activity of the Senators as well. Granted, I better than anyone know there is a big different between sponsoring and supporting legislation and they aren't always occuring together. In spite of this, I think it is generally a good system because it forces interaction between two organs of the gov't, and I beleive such interaction is a key aspect of activity in Atlasia.

[tmthforu94]

Why not just ask a Senator?

Ah, you misunderstand. I don't have any at the moment to introduce, and I have always been able to find a helping Senator in the past to do so.

I just think it would be interesting to the game to let the Cabinet almost transform into a Cabinet out of a Parliamentary system.

This is just my opinion, no problem if it can't be done.

I actually think this is a very good idea, Barnes.

 During my administration, there were several instances where myself or another cabinetmember wanted to introduce something, but we had to get a Senator to do it for us. The bill is going to be introduced regardless, so I don't see any problem with "cutting out the middleman".

[Associate Justice PiT]

Why not just ask a Senator?

     This has come up before & that has always been my reservation. It is also the reason that, even though I am empowered by the IDS Constitution to introduce bills for consideration by our Legislature, I never do so. If you cannot find a member of the actual body who is willing to introduce the bill for you, then it obviously won't succeed. If you cannot find a member who is active enough to be corralled into introducing it, then the Senate has far more serious issues than people having to wait an extra day or so for a bill to hit the queue.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Personally I see absolutely nothing wrong with members of the executive being able to introduce bills on their own, and have proposed that very thing multiple times in the last year, but for some reason this makes certain people get all fussy over "separation of powers" in a forum game.