UK General Discussion II

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The guy with the goatee and the West Country accent was that Trot John Rees, right?

[Silent Hunter]

These groups seem to think the British government is Lord Voldemort or something; using the Imperius curse to make people go to Syria and become terrorists.

[Cassius]

James Molyneaux, who led the Ulster Unionist Party throughout the 1980's and into the 90's, has died aged 94.

[Oakvale]

RIP, HP.

[Joe Republic]

This hilariously pointless product of extreme boredom represents the 2010 election if all votes for parties other than Labour or Conservative were thrown out:





Lib Dem seats are split 39 to 18.  SNP 4 to 2, PC 2 to 1, and Green 1.

New parliament:
Con: 351
Lab: 281
N. Ire: 18


You're welcome!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Terry Pratchett has died

[Silent Hunter]

A great shame. RIP.

[afleitch]

Nuggets of fun from the National Union of Students Women’s Conference

White gay men are the dominant demographic group within the LGBT community and therefore have both white privilege and male privilege. Therefore it is ‘unacceptable’ for gay men to say they have an ‘inner strong black woman’ (do we?) Gay men should therefore not ‘imitate African American Vernacular English.'

Despite this, the commented that delegates should move to ‘jazz hands’ (!) rather than clapping as clapping may trigger anxiety. This has since been challenged that using hand waves to signal agreement may discriminate against the blind and partially sighted. This was then rebuked by saying that clapping disadvantages those who are deaf or hearing impaired until it was pointed out that if you are deaf, you can still see people clapping.

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

[ingemann]

Nuggets of fun from the National Union of Students Women’s Conference

White gay men are the dominant demographic group within the LGBT community and therefore have both white privilege and male privilege. Therefore it is ‘unacceptable’ for gay men to say they have an ‘inner strong black woman’ (do we?) Gay men should therefore not ‘imitate African American Vernacular English.'

Despite this, the commented that delegates should move to ‘jazz hands’ (!) rather than clapping as clapping may trigger anxiety. This has since been challenged that using hand waves to signal agreement may discriminate against the blind and partially sighted. This was then rebuked by saying that clapping disadvantages those who are deaf or hearing impaired until it was pointed out that if you are deaf, you can still see people clapping.

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Nuggets of fun from the National Union of Students Women’s Conference

White gay men are the dominant demographic group within the LGBT community and therefore have both white privilege and male privilege. Therefore it is ‘unacceptable’ for gay men to say they have an ‘inner strong black woman’ (do we?) Gay men should therefore not ‘imitate African American Vernacular English.'

Despite this, the commented that delegates should move to ‘jazz hands’ (!) rather than clapping as clapping may trigger anxiety. This has since been challenged that using hand waves to signal agreement may discriminate against the blind and partially sighted. This was then rebuked by saying that clapping disadvantages those who are deaf or hearing impaired until it was pointed out that if you are deaf, you can still see people clapping.

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

So. Much. SJWery.

[Oakvale]

This is glorious!

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Nuggets of fun from the National Union of Students Women’s Conference

White gay men are the dominant demographic group within the LGBT community and therefore have both white privilege and male privilege. Therefore it is ‘unacceptable’ for gay men to say they have an ‘inner strong black woman’ (do we?) Gay men should therefore not ‘imitate African American Vernacular English.'

Despite this, the commented that delegates should move to ‘jazz hands’ (!) rather than clapping as clapping may trigger anxiety. This has since been challenged that using hand waves to signal agreement may discriminate against the blind and partially sighted. This was then rebuked by saying that clapping disadvantages those who are deaf or hearing impaired until it was pointed out that if you are deaf, you can still see people clapping.

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

...?

[afleitch]

Nuggets of fun from the National Union of Students Women’s Conference

White gay men are the dominant demographic group within the LGBT community and therefore have both white privilege and male privilege. Therefore it is ‘unacceptable’ for gay men to say they have an ‘inner strong black woman’ (do we?) Gay men should therefore not ‘imitate African American Vernacular English.'

Despite this, the commented that delegates should move to ‘jazz hands’ (!) rather than clapping as clapping may trigger anxiety. This has since been challenged that using hand waves to signal agreement may discriminate against the blind and partially sighted. This was then rebuked by saying that clapping disadvantages those who are deaf or hearing impaired until it was pointed out that if you are deaf, you can still see people clapping.

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

...?

I've posted this here because their live twitter feed started to blow up after they announced this at conference. For a group that advocated gender fluidity they seem to have decided gay men doing things or having expressions appearing to be 'feminine' is a problem. Basically they fired a shot above the parapet at their own allies. Unfortunately this sort of godawful committee speak in an otherwise fruitful conference has essentially given some of their most odious opponents ammunition.

Here is the motion in full:

Conference Further Believes:

1. This type of appropriation is unacceptable and must be addressed.
2. Low numbers of Black LGBT women delegates attend NUS LGBT conference. This can be attributed to many factors, one of which may be the prevalent appropriation by white gay men, which may mean that delegates do not feel comfortable or safe attending conference.


Conference Resolves:

1. To work to eradicate the appropriation of black women by white gay men.
2. To work in conjunction with NUS LGBT campaign to raise awareness of the issue, to calll it out as unacceptable behaviour and, where appropriate, to educate those who perpetuate this behaviour.

The bit in bold has LGBT groups up in arms (or should that be jazz hands) because it makes the assumption that there is a physical/sexual threat in gay white men being prevalent at the LGBT conference.

[Simfan34]

Gay men should not dress in drag as it’s ‘offensive to trans women’ UNLESS you are queer and it’s a mode of self-expression (that clears that up then)

I don't get this. I know I'm not a "safe space" regarding these kinds of things, but... gay men are, erm, queer, no?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

From what I hear in some trans groups, some people find the idea of drag offensive as it paints the idea that all transgendered people are drag queens, and it confuses the public.

I think some feminist second-wave throwbacks often are angry at drag for denigrating the holy sanctity of the female form, or something like that (second-wave fans are fairly demented)

[afleitch]

From what I hear in some trans groups, some people find the idea of drag offensive as it paints the idea that all transgendered people are drag queens, and it confuses the public.

I think some feminist second-wave throwbacks often are angry at drag for denigrating the holy sanctity of the female form, or something like that (second-wave fans are fairly demented)

Which is probably the last thing I ever got into a verbal argument over. If gender roles and perceptions are fluid, then the expression of that side of someone through drag (queen/king) is essentially just nothing more than an extension of someones queer expression and should never be considered as anything other than that. It's a truth, not a pastiche.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Yeah it's in discussions like that the absurdity of much sjw juggling comes through

[Cassius]

Ah, student unions, you can't beat them...

[BaconBacon96]

This is what SJWs look like and this is what they do.

[Hifly]

Coffee tastes better without foreigners, says Labour.

https://shop.labour.org.uk/products/pledge-4-mug-controls-on-immigration-551/

Buy one while stocks last.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Anyone watching this hammy Coalition TV drama on C4? There was just a spectacular scene that almost made me feel sorry for DCam

[Blair]

Anyone watching this hammy Coalition TV drama on C4? There was just a spectacular scene that almost made me feel sorry for DCam

Yeah thought it was good. Peter Mandleson was perfect, he's such a sleaze.

[Phony Moderate]

Please no. Just no.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Imao

[All Along The Watchtower]

I found this amusing.