Nederlandse kaart-gasme

[homelycooking]

Strong performances by D66 and PVV are completely obscured by the PvdA's and VVD's pluralities. Separate maps for the smaller parties could be made if anyone would like to see them.



Other cities might be interesting to view at this level as well, especially Maastricht.

[SNJ1985]

How about a map of SGP performances?

[homelycooking]

How about a map of SGP performances?

Where? The fundies got, like, 0.1% in Amsterdam.

[SNJ1985]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

[jeron]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

That depends on your definition of well. The SGP does well in the bible belt, but mainly in the villages and towns. Their highest share of the vote (51%) was in Urk which has a population of 20.000 people.
Here are the results of the largest cities (these are cities with 150.000 people or more)
Rotterdam 0.9%
The Hague 0.5%
Utrecht 0.3%
Eindhoven 0.2%
Almere 0.3%
Groningen 0.4%
Tilburg 0.1%
Breda 0.1%
Amersfoort 1.1%
Enschede 0.4%
Nijmegen 0.1%
Haarlem 0.2%

[Chancellor of the Duchy of Little Lever and Darcy Lever]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

That depends on your definition of well. The SGP does well in the bible belt, but mainly in the villages and towns. Their highest share of the vote (51%) was in Urk which has a population of 20.000 people.

I've been to Urk.  I find it difficult to believe it has a population of 20,000.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Did you visit out of curiosity?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

That depends on your definition of well. The SGP does well in the bible belt, but mainly in the villages and towns. Their highest share of the vote (51%) was in Urk which has a population of 20.000 people.

I've been to Urk.  I find it difficult to believe it has a population of 20,000.

Curiously Dutch cities can be denser in their 'suburbs' than in their city centres. At least from my limited experience.

[SNJ1985]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

That depends on your definition of well. The SGP does well in the bible belt, but mainly in the villages and towns. Their highest share of the vote (51%) was in Urk which has a population of 20.000 people.
Here are the results of the largest cities (these are cities with 150.000 people or more)
Rotterdam 0.9%
The Hague 0.5%
Utrecht 0.3%
Eindhoven 0.2%
Almere 0.3%
Groningen 0.4%
Tilburg 0.1%
Breda 0.1%
Amersfoort 1.1%
Enschede 0.4%
Nijmegen 0.1%
Haarlem 0.2%

Thanks for the info. I already knew where they did best (Urk, Staphorst and other such great places); and I'm not surprised to see they don't perform so strongly in the larger cities. God bless the Dutch Bible Belt!

[DC Al Fine]

Zwolle has 100k people and I believe ChristenUnie is the largest party on the city council.

[SNJ1985]

Zwolle has 100k people and I believe ChristenUnie is the largest party on the city council.

Interesting. I ranked that party second after the SGP in that Individual Politics thread asking us to rank the parties with representation in the Dutch Parliament.

[freek]

Zwolle has 100k people and I believe ChristenUnie is the largest party on the city council.

Correct, although with only 19% of the votes.

Other larger Bible belt municipalities where SGP or ChristenUnie is the largest party include Ede (110k inhabitants, but only 67k in the city of Ede), Veenendaal and Barneveld.

[freek]

Yeah, I should've guessed...are there any large cities where they did (relatively) well?

That depends on your definition of well. The SGP does well in the bible belt, but mainly in the villages and towns. Their highest share of the vote (51%) was in Urk which has a population of 20.000 people.

I've been to Urk.  I find it difficult to believe it has a population of 20,000.

Curiously Dutch cities can be denser in their 'suburbs' than in their city centres. At least from my limited experience.

Not in Urk. It was a densely populated island until the 1940s, only after the creation of the Noordoostpolder it was possible to build suburbs. The historical centre still feels as a small town.

Urk has the youngest population in the country, and the largest families, so it grows fast.

[freek]

Found some maps:




All parties: http://www.zorgatlas.nl/beinvloedende-factoren/sociale-omgeving/stemgedrag/

[homelycooking]

Well, that's the best map of the Bible Belt I could put together.

[SNJ1985]

Dank je wel for the maps, everyone.

[DC Al Fine]

Related to Homely's map...

Do church-goers still vote for the CDA or is their appeal mostly as a safe centrist party?

[jeron]

Related to Homely's map...

Do church-goers still vote for the CDA or is their appeal mostly as a safe centrist party?

Old church-goers vote CDA. In 2012 22% of people aged 75 or older voted CDA, but only 4-5% of people aged 65 or younger voted CDA. Only 2% of people who identified themselves as non-religious supported CDA. CDA draws its support mainly from the catholic church and the protestant church in the Netherlands (PKN). People from smaller protestant denominations generally vote either ChristenUnie or SGP.

[Zinneke]

Other cities might be interesting to view at this level as well, especially Maastricht.

Maastricht has probably the most divided political scene I've seen election-results rise (see locals), but if you talk to the Sjengen nobody really seems to care. D66 are well on the rise though. Never thought I'd see the day D66 do well in Limburg.  

Dumping (from the world elections website)

• Why do people vote 50+ in European elections?
• How does CDA continue to domiante the South with places like Helmond, Oss, etcc that are traditonally socialist leaning?
• How KO'd are PVDA in the North?

[EPG]

It looks to me that the CDA does well in the small-town and rural southern areas around cities like Helmond and Oss, which on that map are more contestable. Of the two municipalities, Oss favoured CDA twice and SP once. Helmond didn't favour CDA at all.

I wonder if the CDA enjoys an apparent advantage in these maps, being the only Christian option in Catholic areas, and furthermore one which does especially well in European elections with low turnout and lots of over-65 voters. The low turnout probably explains 50+ success. A most-popular-party map will give CDA the nice green colour on, say, 20% versus 60% for SP+GL+PvdA+D66, if those four parties split their 60% evenly.

Most valuable in a PR system are maps of single-party support. We have a similar problem in Ireland. The combination of PR, a natural party of government, and no local poll results led to very monochrome maps in the past. The constituencies typically split about 39/4 in favour of the nationally-dominant party. It's more important to know how many votes were won, where. It's clear from that blogpost on WElections that, for instance, PvdA and SP split traditional left-wing areas, each doing best in municipalities where its rival was unusually weak compared to its region.

[Zinneke]

Very true regarding the flaws of the map, but even if you look at this one you have to wonder how the SP don't get more voters out considering they offer a genuine eurosceptic alternative to far right populism in the Netherlands.





Also, Wilders pretty has a power base in Rotterdam because of the Fortuyn effect, but was Fortuyn successful in the Mijnstreek the same way Wilders is?

[EPG]

I assume Dutch voters most hostile to the European Union are also hostile to multiculturalism and immigration, rather than supportive of institutional changes to the EU to achieve far-left policies that are not currently feasible under internal market rules. The SP clearly fail to appeal to the former, even if they serve well the niche market of the latter.

[DavidB.]

Also, Wilders pretty has a power base in Rotterdam because of the Fortuyn effect, but was Fortuyn successful in the Mijnstreek the same way Wilders is?

Wilders' power base in the Rotterdam-Rijnmond area doesn't entirely stem from the Fortuyn effect, it mainly has do to with a lot of white working class voters still living in that area (while these people have left to places like Purmerend, Almere, and Haarlemmermeer in the Greater Amsterdam area). These people live in Rotterdam but even more in places like Spijkenisse, Vlaardingen, and Capelle.

Wilders gets a "favorite son" bonus in Limburg. Fortuyn, on the other hand, didn't appeal to voters in impoverished areas like the Mijnstreek as much as Wilders. Fortuyn was a cosmopolitan, homosexual, in some ways a progressive politician. His anti-multicultural stance was pretty original. Wilders is more of a classical European new-right guy.