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« on: October 01, 2014, 01:14:41 PM »

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http://columbiaspectator.com/news/2014/10/01/columbia-university-marching-bands-sexual-assault-policy-stems-members-personal
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 01:54:03 PM »
« Edited: October 01, 2014, 01:59:09 PM by Governor Varavour »


In other words, due to the unique, traumatic, and burdensome nature of sexual assault, there should be a presumption of guilt in such cases as far as the collegiate realm is concerned.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 02:11:17 PM »


In other words, due to the unique, traumatic, and burdensome nature of sexual assault, there should be a presumption of guilt in such cases as far as the collegiate realm is concerned.

It's really distracting that "board" seems to be misspelled throughout the whole piece.

It's a quirk of the marching band, apparently.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 02:35:24 PM »


The Community Standards Agreement treats all allegations of assault as truth, and stipulates that Bored members must take steps against any member reported as an alleged assailant.

We don't care if something is not confirmed, we aren't interested in having alleged perpetrators in our group,” CUMB Head Manager Edith Lerner, BC ’16, said in an official statement. “We recognize that there could be problems with the policy, but we wanted it implement it [sic] right away so that our new members this year knew right off the bat what our values are and how serious we are about our community.”

These people can't possibly be serious. In what universe is this idea anything other than patently retarded? Basically they are making a rule that if you decide you don't like someone you can instantly destroy them at one's own whim. Wow.

Ugh. Why does everybody have to be so stupid about everything?

What are you talking about? It's not like this is an environment in which one can randomly cry that they were raped with zero consequence to them. This is something that carries a great deal of social stigma and intense questioning.

If there was truly some wave of false accusations, as you seem to believe this would enable, the stigma would subside, and in turn we could adopt a more rigorous standard of proof. It's a negative cycle which must be broken at some point, whether it be for the sake of morality, social justice, basic human decency, whatever you want to call it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 02:52:35 PM »

It's not as if any judgement occurs in the university bureaucracy, right? Or that going to them is a traumatising experience in and of itself, yes?

My mistake.
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