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Question: If you were drafted, would you serve or dodge?
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Dodge half-heartedly
 
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Depends on your support for this war
 
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Serve
 
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Sink to desperate levels to avoid service
 
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« on: October 01, 2014, 01:23:16 PM »

Imagine (if you are not) you are physically able and of age; you have found yourself selected to serve in your countries military. Would you serve in the military or run away/fake illness?
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 01:24:10 PM »

Helllllll no.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 01:32:50 PM »


It wasn't really a yes or no question, but I'll accept.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 01:34:53 PM »

Of course not!
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 01:54:58 PM »

A few months ago, I'd have said evade without a second doubt. Now, I'm not so sure.

I'm opposed to all inter-imperialist or imperialist conflicts, which is just about every conflict that the United States is probably going to be involved in for the foreseeable future. So no matter what, I would oppose whatever war is going on in the event that I am drafted. The question then becomes which is the better tactic for undermining the war? Is it better to encourage people to evade the draft en masse, or is it better to encourage people to accept the draft, learn how to use a gun and how to survive, and undermine the war from within the ranks of the armed forces?

That question is probably the most important. If there's a draft going on, we're in a situation in which mass numbers of working class kids are being forced into service, which creates the kind of situation that emerged in Vietnam -- internal military rebellion.

I would evade or serve based on which I thought would best advance the class struggle.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »

Depends on the war.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 01:56:50 PM »

Serve
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 02:02:31 PM »

Mexico!
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 02:02:41 PM »

I would evade or serve based on which I thought would best advance the class struggle.

Marxist rhetoric aside, I hope all your answers would be conditional- invading a random country is quite  different from the country being invaded.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 02:06:48 PM »

Luckily I have dual citizenship for situations like this one.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 02:08:45 PM »

Depends on the circumstances. I got around Germany's conscription in its final years, but I would have served if I hadn't found a way. But the chance of actually serving in combat would have been 0.

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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 02:12:28 PM »

I would evade or serve based on which I thought would best advance the class struggle.

Marxist rhetoric aside, I hope all your answers would be conditional- invading a random country is quite  different from the country being invaded.

The country being invaded would not necessarily be a reason to serve in the armed forces, especially if the invading country is invading doing so as an outgrowth of an existing imperial conflict between this country and our hypothetical invader. In that case, it would probably be best to openly organize a third camp to repel the invaders and take advantage of the weakened state of the capitalists in order to seize power domestically. Essentially the opposite of what the CNT-FAI and POUM did in Spain. Collaborating with the state when revolutionary possibilities exist is to act as a handmaid of reaction.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 02:14:22 PM »

Dodge and flee, most likely.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2014, 02:17:54 PM »

Intellectually, it would depend on the circumstances, but practically, I would probably serve. Most people follow the path of least resistance, and in this case, it's do what you're told to do.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2014, 02:21:56 PM »

Is there a currently serving politician who dodged his Vietnam draft by soiling himself, or am I making that up?

I would have probably tried to dodge in Vietnam, had I been an American man in the 60's; but I don't think I'd fall to that level.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2014, 02:28:06 PM »

Canada.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2014, 02:29:00 PM »

Depends. If we are attacked in a major way (nuclear terrorism) and all of my non-interventionist principles give way to raw emotion, I might go and fight. But I am not going to be drafted into fighting a war I don
't support, like the current and previous Iraq Wars.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2014, 02:37:03 PM »

Serve
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2014, 04:36:35 PM »


But I'd never survive the military, let alone actual combat lolz
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2014, 04:58:20 PM »

Buncha ing cowards.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2014, 04:59:57 PM »

I'm about 15 years to old to be drafted, but had I been when I was younger, I would have surved.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2014, 05:02:33 PM »


This. Really depends on the war in question. Defending my homeland? No problem. Stomping around some 3rd world hellhole fighting some enemy that will never land an army on our soil? No thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2014, 05:05:43 PM »

Serve.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2014, 05:05:57 PM »

I'd mostly likely fail the physical examination given that I'm north of 300lbs and have a history of diagnosed mental illness.
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2014, 06:20:25 PM »

I'd get off easy because I'm everything the military doesn't want physically, but if I weren't me it'd depend on the war. I'd serve in World War II or Korea, but not Vietnam or Iraq.
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