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« on: October 01, 2014, 06:00:12 PM »

Report.

Braley (D)- 47%
Ernst (R)- 46%
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 06:05:48 PM »

Considering house effect, the real numbers are about 47-46 or 48-45 Ernst. More bad news for Braley.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 06:13:09 PM »

Oh yeah! Well my internal has it tied just like PPP! HA!

wait, oops.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 06:22:14 PM »

If the best he can do is an internal showing him basically tied, Braley's gone.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 06:23:05 PM »

If the best he can do is an internal showing him basically tied, Braley's gone.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 06:26:02 PM »

If the best he can do is an internal showing him basically tied, Braley's gone.

No, that's not how elections work.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 06:28:20 PM »

Remember, Democratic internals are generally on the mark. All he has to do is make sure he gets his base out to close strongly. Ernst is basically only pulling Romney's number, so at this point, it's still not a done deal.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 06:33:00 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-nCdwxAXY
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 06:37:00 PM »

Junk poll!
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 08:01:44 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 08:03:52 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 08:30:37 PM »

The thing is, there is not a whole lot of variance between this poll and PPP's.

And, in 2010, internals were more accurate that pollsters. Sharron Angle was up in every independent poll, but Reid's internals showed a different story, so there are exceptions. Ground game can make up a 1-2 point gap and full expect Braley to do that.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2014, 08:33:49 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.

That Selzer poll is an obvious outlier, or they weren't pushing undecideds very much. PPP and this poll are not that different.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2014, 09:02:33 PM »

The thing is, there is not a whole lot of variance between this poll and PPP's.

And, in 2010, internals were more accurate that pollsters. Sharron Angle was up in every independent poll, but Reid's internals showed a different story, so there are exceptions. Ground game can make up a 1-2 point gap and full expect Braley to do that.

Citing one situation does not make it true, especially a situation as odd as Angle v. Reid.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2014, 09:08:45 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.

That Selzer poll is an obvious outlier, or they weren't pushing undecideds very much. PPP and this poll are not that different.

Selzer was more accurate than PPP was in Iowa.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2014, 09:18:25 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.

That Selzer poll is an obvious outlier, or they weren't pushing undecideds very much. PPP and this poll are not that different.

Selzer was more accurate than PPP was in Iowa.

It's odd to see someone attempt to write off Selzer given their track record. Also, for Selzer's poll to have been an actual outlier, wouldn't it have had to be the only poll out there showing Ernst up 6? Quinnipiac had that same margin.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2014, 09:31:03 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.

That Selzer poll is an obvious outlier, or they weren't pushing undecideds very much. PPP and this poll are not that different.

Selzer was more accurate than PPP was in Iowa.

It's odd to see someone attempt to write off Selzer given their track record. Also, for Selzer's poll to have been an actual outlier, wouldn't it have had to be the only poll out there showing Ernst up 6? Quinnipiac had that same margin.

Quinnipiac is a joke.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2014, 09:32:10 PM »


Democratic internals have consistently been more accurate than Republican ones. Bury your head in the sand all you want, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

And Democratic internals are not more accurate than gold standard polls like Selzer and PPP.

That Selzer poll is an obvious outlier, or they weren't pushing undecideds very much. PPP and this poll are not that different.

Selzer was more accurate than PPP was in Iowa.

It's odd to see someone attempt to write off Selzer given their track record. Also, for Selzer's poll to have been an actual outlier, wouldn't it have had to be the only poll out there showing Ernst up 6? Quinnipiac had that same margin.

Quinnipiac is a joke.

You are a joke.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2014, 09:36:00 PM »

The thing is, there is not a whole lot of variance between this poll and PPP's.

And, in 2010, internals were more accurate that pollsters. Sharron Angle was up in every independent poll, but Reid's internals showed a different story, so there are exceptions. Ground game can make up a 1-2 point gap and full expect Braley to do that.

Citing one situation does not make it true, especially a situation as odd as Angle v. Reid.

I stated a situation and refuted your point, I didn't say every single internal is more accurate. Democratic internals do have a high level of accuracy and it's not like this one is so far off what PPP is stating.
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2014, 07:41:38 AM »

Explain to me again what is exactly the point of releasing internals ? Is it done in any other place than the US ? Is anybody taking them seriously, at all ?
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2014, 07:44:47 AM »

Explain to me again what is exactly the point of releasing internals ? Is it done in any other place than the US ? Is anybody taking them seriously, at all ?

To prevent the donor base from throwing Braley into the chicken compost heap.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2014, 07:52:49 AM »

I can't wait to see this forum's meltdown if the GOP winds up sweeping MT, WV, SD, AR, LA, AK, IA, and CO.
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2014, 12:53:31 PM »

I can't wait to see this forum's meltdown if the GOP winds up sweeping MT, WV, SD, AR, LA, AK, IA, and CO.

Why would there be a meltdown? I'm pretty sure most Democrats here know losing is a real possibility (or a foregone conclusion) in these states.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2014, 12:59:57 PM »

The only meltdown that will occur is if Republicans fail to take the Senate.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2014, 11:43:24 PM »

I can't wait to see this forum's meltdown if the GOP winds up sweeping MT, WV, SD, AR, LA, AK, IA, and CO.

There won't be much of one. Most of the Dem hacks on here who think losing impossible are either trolling, going to disappear if the election doesn't go their way, or severely disconnected from reality in a way that makes them impervious to results.
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