Amendment to the Fair De-Registration Rights Act (Failed)

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Sorry I didn't make it clear in the introduction thread: the bill is this

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Anyway, this is fairly self explanatory. The truth is, like with I'm leaving threads, no one who deregisters stays deregistered. Actions should have consequences, and the 60 days time limit is not a real consequence.

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Look, I like and admire Maxwell and sirnick and many other atlasians who have deregistered, and I'm very glad they returned. But the fact they returned so quickly suggests they didn't want to leave the game so much as make a statement.

I would not mind deregistration if it was something people who register, then find themselves bombarded with PMs, then find they don't like the game did. But it's not. There have been almost no incidences where that has happened. The only people who deregister are those who play a very active part in the game, and then go on playing an active part in the game after deregistration, and then reregister shortly after.

Frankly I agree with yankee and would rather repeal the whole thing, but if we're going to keep it with the extra work for the RG it entails, we may as well give it some teeth.

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Just to gauge support, would people be more amenable to scrapping deregistration entirely?

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The issue is not only that someone wants to lock themselves out of the game. They may simply want to not be bothered by Atlasia-related PM's and the like.

Again, I fail to see any negatives to maintaining the option of deregistration. Yes, there are people who deregister and then reregister soon afterward. So what? What negative impact is that having on the game?

The current system means unnecessary work for the RG, and it also sends out the message that actions don't have consequences. If deregstration was used by people who are tired of recieving PMs then I wouldn't mind keeping it. But, certainly in my time, that has never happened. People who deregister after recieving a few PMs are an almost mythical species.

What we have now is the worst of both worlds, it provides unneccesary work for the RG and is too short a time to seriously deter people. If we abolished it we'd free up the RG, if we increased the penalty it would give the act a consequence.

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I definitely don't think that increasing the time limit entails less work for the RG and I've said as much earlier. It would though provide a serious consequence to people who deregister, where at the moment it's not really that serious.

If there was any evidence that even some people who deregistered were people who were planning to fade into inactivity and never come back then that would be one thing, but I don't think that's ever actually happened. The only people who deregister are those who are going to participate again almost straight away.

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I definitely don't think that increasing the time limit entails less work for the RG and I've said as much earlier. It would though provide a serious consequence to people who deregister, where at the moment it's not really that serious.

If there was any evidence that even some people who deregistered were people who were planning to fade into inactivity and never come back then that would be one thing, but I don't think that's ever actually happened. The only people who deregister are those who are going to participate again almost straight away.

Again, what is the downside of people deregistering and returning soon afterward? You previously claimed it overburdens the RG but Fritz has denied that so I see no actual negative impacts of deregisteration.

Now that's just not true.

I said a deregistration system is more work having no such system. I claimed the advantage to abolishing deregistration would be it would lighten the RG's workload.

I claimed the advantage to increasing the time limit is it means the act of deregistering has a consequence, and I never said anything about Fritz's workload here. Now most of us, including fritz agree there should be some consequence to deregistering, the question at the moment before us is whether the current consequence is enough.

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Aye