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Adam Griffin
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« on: October 08, 2014, 05:52:12 AM »

x Adam Griffin

Lumine has gone too far. It was bad enough when he led the Senate in blocking the appointment of a VP for a freaking month, and now this?
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Adam Griffin
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Posts: 20,088
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 06:49:16 AM »

Well, to be perfectly honest I filed a motion and proposed the matter before the Senate because I believed there were treasonous actions based on the narrative of the SoIA and the consecuences of the pro-secession speeches, like Cynic and other officeholders, not because I seek to expulse a Senator on purely political grounds. If like Yankee, Bore and others have said these were not treasonous actions then he can't be expulsed because it would indeed be a matter of freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't even debate it, at least not in the middle of a crisis.  

Regarding the gone too far comment, I refer Griffin to my earlier speech on the subject, the fact that the PPT overreach lawsuit was what consumed most of that month, and the eventual outcome of said VP nomination, so please forgive me if I decide to dismiss said claim for the time being.

You certainly find yourself engaging in actions "not on purely political grounds" quite often.

Also, the PPT debacle has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you led the charge to block the nomination; the nomination hearing should have been based on the merits and the qualifications of the nominee (just like they almost always were until very recently). The need for a PPT to break any votes in the case outlined above would have only been needed assuming the entire process had been turned into a gridlock, partisan episode of grandstanding during a time with a divided Senate. The Senate was perfectly capable of conducting many other items of business during that time (and as you inferred, was capable of eventually approving the nomination after all that grandstanding and with an even less-favorable composition), so let's not give excuses to the effect of "we could only do one thing at a time" because of said situation.
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