SC not issuing SSM licsenses

[Miles]

Breaking.

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(Edit: See my latest post.)

[memphis]

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Wonderful news!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Richland County as well:  http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/08/3731915/richland-charleston-counties-issuing.html

Greenville and Cherokee Counties definitely are not.  Also, technically, they've only accepted the applications in Charleston and Richland.  South Carolina law specifies a minimum of twenty-four hours after the application is turned in before the actual license is issued, tho apparently some counties issue licenses at the time of application that don't become valid until twenty-four hours later so as to avoid having people come back a second time to pick them up.

[Consciously Unconscious]

Woohoo!  This is wonderful. It might take a while for the upstate to start though. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Don't expect it in York County anytime soon.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Don't expect it in York County anytime soon.

Or in any county where the probate court judge was elected as a Republican.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Miles, why is it always you who starts the new SSM legalization threads?

[Cory]

Don't expect it in York County anytime soon.

Yeah, lol. The Piedmont is the more so-con part of that state as opposed to the Country Clubbers on the coast. It's the Jim DeMint wing of the SC GOP and the Lindsey Graham wing of the party.

[pbrower2a]

Here's how I discuss a state acceding to SSM. I put this in the section on polls of approval and disapproval of SSM so that I need discuss a state once if necessary without needing to create a new thread. Legalization of SSM makes approval or disapproval moot.

West Virginia: the state's attorney-general gives in.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/09/west-virginia-gay-marriage_n_5960096.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-marriage

Recent YouGov map with appropriate modifications as of 2PM EST, 9 October 2014:

White -- SSM equality by law.
Yellow -- toss-up

 

States in white (and DC) already have legalized same-sex marriages. Other states are coded by district in those in which SSM was not permanently legalized as of 2 PM EST on 9 October 2014:

Status of SSM in Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the Northern Marianas not shown.

4th circuit*
5th circuit
6th circuit*
8th circuit
9th circuit*
10th circuit*
11th circuit

*Next appeal, US Supreme court.

Colors have no political significance.

DC and all states within the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 7th appellate districts have legalized SSM.


Here are the numbers:

Compiled results are listed below. The headers for each column are: State/ Support Legalising Gay Marriage/ Oppose Legalising Gay Marriage/ Net Support.

MA    71    19    +52
VT    71    20    +51
RI    68    20    +48
NH    63    24    +39
CT    61    26    +35
NY    61    27    +34
HI    59    26    +33
CA    58    31    +27
ME    63    37    +26
NM    57    32    +25
WA    57    32    +25
NV    55    31    +24
DE    54    31    +23
NJ    54    32    +22
OR    56    35    +21
IA    53    33    +20
IL    53    33    +20
CO    54    35    +19
MN    52    34    +18
AK    50    36    +14
WI    51    37    +14
MD    48    36    +12
PA    49    38    +11
ND    48    39    +9
MI    47    39    +8
AZ    47    40    +7
VA    47    40    +7
FL    46    40    +6
OH    45    40    +5
MT    45    41    +4
KS    44    41    +3
SD    43    43    0
IN    43    45    -2
NC    42    46    -4
MO    41    47    -6
NE    40    46    -6
LA    39    46    -7
WV    39    48    -9
GA    37    47    -10
SC    37    47    -10
KY    38    50    -12
TX    37    50    -13
OK    37    51    -14
WY    33    50    -17
ID    33    51    -18
AR    32    54    -22
UT    34    56    -22
MS    29    56    -27
TN    29    58    -29
AL    28    60    -32

US    48    39    +9


state in which SSM equality is in effect

....This approach allows for SSM to be approved by either legislation or initiative/referendum, a decision by an elected official to refuse to appeal a decision by a federal circuit court, or the definitive decision of the US Supreme Court.

At one time I believed that approval and disapproval were highly relevant, as the first states to accept SSM equality were those in which approval was more positive than negative. Should Florida, Michigan, or Ohio get a Democratic majority in both State houses, then I might expect SSM equality to pass in January or February if the Supreme Court doesn't make the decision on behalf of those states. 

If someone wants a thread showing the history of acceptance of SSM, state by state, then by all means set up such a thread.   

I'm not a moderator, and it is only my taste. I prefer that instead of a proliferation of threads of short-term interest that have few responses we have longer threads that can 'read' as history. This is not a question of ideology.



 

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

South Carolina Supreme Court blocks issuance of SSM licenses until the Federal district court rules in the Bradacs case.

http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/09/3733962/breaking-sc-supreme-court-tells.html

The ruling was a 3-2 decision with the 2 dissenting justices wanting the issuance blocked until the US Supreme Court ruled on the issue.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

South Carolina Supreme Court blocks issuance of SSM licenses until the Federal district court rules in the Bradacs case.

http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/09/3733962/breaking-sc-supreme-court-tells.html

The ruling was a 3-2 decision with the 2 dissenting justices wanting the issuance blocked until the US Supreme Court ruled on the issue.

Grasp at your straws all you want, awfuls!

[Consciously Unconscious]

To be expected, although it won't last forever.  At least SC won't be the last state!

[memphis]

[KCDem]

RIP South Carolina

[Miles]

Miles, why is it always you who starts the new SSM legalization threads?

I just post it when it comes up in my Twitter feed.

I have been on a streak with these SSM threads though.

[badgate]

Myles is very Twitter-friendly.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Myles is very Twitter-friendly.

Better him than me.  If I want to read twits, I just need to read this forum.

[Likely Voter]

I have been thinking about that lately. Maybe not one of the governors, but some county clerks or other local officials in the deep south refusing to comply and forcing federal marshals to intervene.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I have been thinking about that lately. Maybe not one of the governors, but some county clerks or other local officials in the deep south refusing to comply and forcing federal marshals to intervene.

Who do you think the Republican governor most likely to stand in a doorway to prevent a gay couple from getting married is? I would have thought Mike Pence, but it was legalized in Indiana by the latest court case and he hasn't, so maybe none will.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Briefs now due 23 October.

http://www.thestate.com/2014/10/14/3744188/sc-same-sex-marriage-case-us-judge.html

Plus, the judge has given the parties 21 days to file replies and a if she decides to hold a hearing, a minimum of two weeks after the last reply.

I think we can count on Wilson to drag this out as long as he can, so I'll be extremely surprised if this is settled before December.