1836 Presidential Election

[ElectionsGuy]

1789: 62.1% Anti-Federalist; George Washington
1796: 63.0% Thomas Jefferson
1800: 75.0% Thomas Jefferson
1804: 85.7% Thomas Jefferson
1808: 76.9% James Madison
1812: 50.0% James Madison
1816: 69.2% James Monroe
1820: 60.0% James Monroe
1828: 48.0% John Q. Adams
1832: 51.5% Henry Clay
1840: 42.9% Martin Van Buren
1844: 50.0% James Birney
1848: 83.3% Martin Van Buren
1852: 69.2% John Hale
1856: 74.2% John Fremont
1860: 71.7% Abraham Lincoln
1864: 71.4% Abraham Lincoln
1868: 77.1% Ulysses Grant
1872: 65.4% Ulysses Grant
1880: 44.8% James Garfield
1888: 51.6% Grover Cleveland
1896: 32.5% John Palmer
1904: 51.4% Theodore Roosevelt
1908: 47.4% William Taft
1912: 37.5% William Taft
1920: 41.5% Warren Harding
1924: 52.4% Robert La Follette
1928: 40.0% Al Smith
1936: 45.5% Franklin Roosevelt
1944: 56.8% Franklin Roosevelt
1948: 35.7% Harry Truman
1952: 63.9% Dwight Eisenhower
1956: 67.5% Dwight Eisenhower
1960: 58.8% John Kennedy
1964: 49.2% Lyndon Johnson
1968: 44.4% Hubert Humphrey
1972: 60.5% George McGovern
1976: 50.0% Gerald Ford
1980: 26.2% Ronald Reagan
1992: 33.9% William Clinton
2000: 48.3% Al Gore
2008: 53.8% Barack Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1836

Van Buren

[SWE]

Van Buren

[Maistre]

Van Buren.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

My mind is in two places in this election. I like Van Buren, but coming after Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny (that MVB must have played some part in himself) I don't think I would be all too happy about electing one of his cronies.

I'd vote for Harrison, and hope that if he was elected he'd wear a frickin coat in his inauguration this time around.

[H. Ross Peron]

Whoever the Whig candidate would have been in my state.

[ElectionsGuy]

Whoever the Whig candidate would have been in my state.

That would actually be Daniel Webster, who for some reason I forgot to list. Oh well, just choose 'Other'. He was only on the ballot in Massachusetts and it was the only state he won.

[Mechaman]

My mind is in two places in this election. I like Van Buren, but coming after Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny (that MVB must have played some part in himself) I don't think I would be all too happy about electing one of his cronies.

I'd vote for Harrison, and hope that if he was elected he'd wear a frickin coat in his inauguration this time around.

I'm sorry, but all of the really horrible things that Jackson did I could easily see guys like Clay and William Harrison doing if they were elected in 1828.  I mean, unless you are one of those massively uninformed people who think that the National Republican and Whig outrage to things like the Indian Removal was because they were genuinely anti-racist and not because they were massive conservative opportunists, there really is not that many reasons besides tariffs and internal improvements to vote Whig.  Hell, if Clay were president he probably would've just killed the whole lot rather than dealing with the fallout that would come from moving them to Oklahoma.

[Maistre]

Hell, if Clay were president he probably would've just killed the whole lot rather than dealing with the fallout that would come from moving them to Oklahoma.

He probably wouldn't have sent the army in to kill them or something, but he also likely wouldn't have lifted a finger when the Georgians started moving on them.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

My mind is in two places in this election. I like Van Buren, but coming after Andrew Jackson's reign of tyranny (that MVB must have played some part in himself) I don't think I would be all too happy about electing one of his cronies.

I'd vote for Harrison, and hope that if he was elected he'd wear a frickin coat in his inauguration this time around.

I'm sorry, but all of the really horrible things that Jackson did I could easily see guys like Clay and William Harrison doing if they were elected in 1828.  I mean, unless you are one of those massively uninformed people who think that the National Republican and Whig outrage to things like the Indian Removal was because they were genuinely anti-racist and not because they were massive conservative opportunists, there really is not that many reasons besides tariffs and internal improvements to vote Whig.  Hell, if Clay were president he probably would've just killed the whole lot rather than dealing with the fallout that would come from moving them to Oklahoma.

Clay didn't represent the interests of the backwoods Southern settlers infringing on Cherokee territory like Jackson did.  Is there anything in Clay's record that he would have flat out ignored a Supreme Court order on an Indian treaty like Jackson did?   (Though if you are concerned about the rights of Indians in any way W.H. Harrison is probably not your man)

[politicus]

White pressed hard to get the Indian Removal Act through and Harrison was a hardliner on the issue, so Van Buren may actually be the best of a bad lot regarding Indian affairs.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Yeah, I selected Harrison without thinking of his pre-Presidency actions. I still dislike the previous Democratic administration (even for things beside the Indian genocide) enough to vote for Harrison. I'm no fan of Clay, of course though.

[Mechaman]

Hell, if Clay were president he probably would've just killed the whole lot rather than dealing with the fallout that would come from moving them to Oklahoma.

He probably wouldn't have sent the army in to kill them or something, but he also likely wouldn't have lifted a finger when the Georgians started moving on them.

Maybe, but this is pretty damning:

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Granted this is a Mises Institute source, but still.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

The belief that the Indians would inevitably die out in a few generations was a widely held view in the 19th century - basically what would later be called a Social Darwinist view i.e. that they would just not be able to compete with white civilization.  Clay's position was horribly racist but not the same as advocacy of genocide.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Yes, Jackson's anti Indian policies weren't particularly out of the norm, but I think his desperate attempts to override the courts etc. showed he was going out of his way to inflict genocide.

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

Van Buren.

[TDAS04]

Van Buren.

[Goldwater]

Van Buren.