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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2014, 06:00:58 PM »

AK, AR, KY seem about right. KS is obviously significantly off. CO is too - not so much because of the spread but because it shows Udall at only 37%.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2014, 06:01:07 PM »

Quinnipiac's poll was wildly inflated, and it's pretty old by now. I think Fox News is playing games here, as most other pollster are not showing this many undecideds. They pulled a stunt with the LA-Sen poll.

Yeah, I'm sure the Democratic pollster Anderson Robbins Research who is part of the bipartisan duo that polls for Fox News is allowing Fox News to play games with polls by not reporting undecideds.  After all, they have no incentive to show the Democratic candidates up.

You just can't take polls that show your candidates down at face value, can you?
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2014, 06:04:04 PM »

This looks like a bunch of Republican fantasy junk.

Kind of interesting to see McConnell tied with Sullivan for the smallest leads here though.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2014, 06:12:16 PM »

I thought FOX was fairly decent at polls. Just because the network is hilarious doesn't mean all polls are automatically junk.
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2014, 06:12:31 PM »

Quinnipiac's poll was wildly inflated, and it's pretty old by now. I think Fox News is playing games here, as most other pollster are not showing this many undecideds. They pulled a stunt with the LA-Sen poll.

Yeah, I'm sure the Democratic pollster Anderson Robbins Research who is part of the bipartisan duo that polls for Fox News is allowing Fox News to play games with polls by not reporting undecideds.  After all, they have no incentive to show the Democratic candidates up.

You just can't take polls that show your candidates down at face value, can you?

Well let's not forget that Alan Colmes and Pat Caddell are some examples of "FOX News Democrats". It really depends whether or not Anderson Robbins Research is in that mold of eunuch Democrats or not.

And he brought up a good point, that FOX's previous Louisiana poll has now been shown to be complete bogus.
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« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2014, 06:21:04 PM »

Are these polls junk?
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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2014, 06:31:15 PM »

Quinnipiac's poll was wildly inflated, and it's pretty old by now. I think Fox News is playing games here, as most other pollster are not showing this many undecideds. They pulled a stunt with the LA-Sen poll.

Yeah, I'm sure the Democratic pollster Anderson Robbins Research who is part of the bipartisan duo that polls for Fox News is allowing Fox News to play games with polls by not reporting undecideds.  After all, they have no incentive to show the Democratic candidates up.

You just can't take polls that show your candidates down at face value, can you?

Take many seats, please. It's the huge number of undecideds that make these polls suspect, seeing as no one else is showing such high undecideds anymore. Even if there is a Democratic pollster on staff, pollsters are still paid to do a job and pushing leaners was not part of the job.
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« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2014, 06:44:19 PM »

Oh, wow! Multiple thrashings.
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« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2014, 06:44:52 PM »

Take many seats, please. It's the huge number of undecideds that make these polls suspect, seeing as no one else is showing such high undecideds anymore. Even if there is a Democratic pollster on staff, pollsters are still paid to do a job and pushing leaners was not part of the job.

So I guess the recent Survey USA (11%), Marist (15%) and Suffolk (13%) Kansas polls, which showed HIGHER undecideds than this Fox News Poll (10%) are even more suspect than the Fox News poll?  Or are those polls okay because they show the candidate you want in the lead and this one doesn't?

Plenty of pollsters are showing undecideds in the 7-13% range right now, like these Fox News polls, especially in Kansas.  Look it up in the database if you don't believe me.  Or just find another thing "wrong" about the poll to discredit it because you don't like the result, like you always do.
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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2014, 07:10:04 PM »

Take many seats, please. It's the huge number of undecideds that make these polls suspect, seeing as no one else is showing such high undecideds anymore. Even if there is a Democratic pollster on staff, pollsters are still paid to do a job and pushing leaners was not part of the job.

So I guess the recent Survey USA (11%), Marist (15%) and Suffolk (13%) Kansas polls, which showed HIGHER undecideds than this Fox News Poll (10%) are even more suspect than the Fox News poll?  Or are those polls okay because they show the candidate you want in the lead and this one doesn't?

Plenty of pollsters are showing undecideds in the 7-13% range right now, like these Fox News polls, especially in Kansas.  Look it up in the database if you don't believe me.  Or just find another thing "wrong" about the poll to discredit it because you don't like the result, like you always do.

Once again, I have to tell you to calm down, because you just go into some angry mode. At this stage, I find it hard to believe any of the candidates is actually in the 30s at this point. I'm not discrediting the polls because I don't like the result.
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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2014, 07:42:45 PM »

When there are so many polls showing double digits undecideds (the CNN/ORC poll is the outlier here), and all type of polls (robo, livecalling, RDD, voter file), I don't think it's wise to bet against them. This Kansas race has developed very oddly and unexpectedly, it's not that far-fetched many LVs still haven't made a decision.
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« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2014, 07:43:58 PM »

Polls showing Orman leading are officially outliers.

Never change buddy
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« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2014, 09:14:51 PM »

Spot the outlier!


RCP Average   9/13 - 10/7   --   --   44.8   43.5   Gardner +1.3
FOX News   10/4 - 10/7   739 LV   3.5   43   37   Gardner +6
CBS News/NYT/YouGov   9/20 - 10/1   1634 LV   3.0   45   48   Udall +3
Rasmussen Reports   9/29 - 9/30   950 LV   3.0   48   47   Gardner +1
USA Today/Suffolk*   9/13 - 9/16   500 LV   4.4   43   42   Gardner +1
Quinnipiac*   9/10 - 9/15   1211 LV   2.8   48   40   Gardner +8
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« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2014, 09:31:51 PM »

"News"

Spot the outlier!


RCP Average   9/13 - 10/7   --   --   44.8   43.5   Gardner +1.3
FOX News   10/4 - 10/7   739 LV   3.5   43   37   Gardner +6
CBS News/NYT/YouGov   9/20 - 10/1   1634 LV   3.0   45   48   Udall +3
Rasmussen Reports   9/29 - 9/30   950 LV   3.0   48   47   Gardner +1
USA Today/Suffolk*   9/13 - 9/16   500 LV   4.4   43   42   Gardner +1
Quinnipiac*   9/10 - 9/15   1211 LV   2.8   48   40   Gardner +8

In all fairness YouGov is a steaming pile of sh*t that I've disregarded.
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« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2014, 09:50:59 PM »

538 on why these polls don't tell us anything new.
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« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2014, 11:43:17 PM »

Republicans lead in every single race.

RIP Democratic party.

It's probably for the best.
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2014, 12:25:25 AM »
« Edited: October 09, 2014, 12:27:59 AM by IceSpear »

Spot the outlier!


RCP Average   9/13 - 10/7   --   --   44.8   43.5   Gardner +1.3
FOX News   10/4 - 10/7   739 LV   3.5   43   37   Gardner +6
CBS News/NYT/YouGov   9/20 - 10/1   1634 LV   3.0   45   48   Udall +3
Rasmussen Reports   9/29 - 9/30   950 LV   3.0   48   47   Gardner +1
USA Today/Suffolk*   9/13 - 9/16   500 LV   4.4   43   42   Gardner +1
Quinnipiac*   9/10 - 9/15   1211 LV   2.8   48   40   Gardner +8

FOX, YouGov, and Quinnipiac. That was easy.

In fact, Udall +3 is actually closer to the average than Gardner +6 or Gardner +8 is. Median is Gardner +1 as well, Gardner +1.5 if you count the PPP poll that RCP doesn't list.
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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2014, 12:54:24 AM »

FiveThirtyEight wrote an article about these polls:

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-update-dont-go-crazy/
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2014, 03:42:37 AM »
« Edited: October 09, 2014, 03:46:42 AM by Dave Leip »

New Poll: Kansas Senator by Fox News on 2014-10-07

Summary: D: 0%, R: 44%, I: 39%, U: 19%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2014, 03:45:53 AM »

Reminds me of a song from the band "Garbage":

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Not more to add to these Faux News polls.
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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2014, 03:53:02 AM »

New Poll: Alaska Senator by Fox News on 2014-10-07

Summary: D: 40%, R: 44%, I: 6%, U: 10%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2014, 04:01:55 AM »

New Poll: Arkansas Senator by Fox News on 2014-10-07

Summary: D: 39%, R: 46%, I: 5%, U: 11%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2014, 04:07:06 AM »

New Poll: Colorado Senator by Fox News on 2014-10-07

Summary: D: 37%, R: 43%, I: 7%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2014, 04:10:41 AM »

New Poll: Kentucky Senator by Fox News on 2014-10-07

Summary: D: 41%, R: 45%, I: 6%, U: 9%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2014, 06:02:20 PM »

I don't believe there are 20% undecided in Colorado this close to the election.
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