Is Pat Quinn one of the most talented politicians in the country?
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« on: October 11, 2014, 11:36:49 AM »

Seriously, the guy is up there with Harry Reid when it comes to winning elections you shouldn't.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2014, 12:41:35 PM »

No, just one of the luckiest.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2014, 04:23:23 PM »

Believe me, he's not.  As someone who strongly campaigns for him, it's only because the Republicans keep coming up with the craziest candidates at the governor's level.  I mean, Quinn seems like a nice guy, and probably is the type of Democrat I agree with more often than not, he's just glaringly incompetent at actually getting things done.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2014, 04:43:31 PM »

Believe me, he's not.  As someone who strongly campaigns for him, it's only because the Republicans keep coming up with the craziest candidates at the governor's level.  I mean, Quinn seems like a nice guy, and probably is the type of Democrat I agree with more often than not, he's just glaringly incompetent at actually getting things done.

Bruce Rauner isn't crazy. He's just a small-beans, state-level version of Mitt Romney.

It seems like the IL GOP's problem is that their candidates are either crazy true believers from downstate or Outer Chicagoland, or they're finance/PE douches like Rauner or the infamous Jack Ryan.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2014, 05:07:30 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2014, 05:25:07 PM »

No. It's Illinois.
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2014, 07:58:41 PM »

Believe me, he's not.  As someone who strongly campaigns for him, it's only because the Republicans keep coming up with the craziest candidates at the governor's level.  I mean, Quinn seems like a nice guy, and probably is the type of Democrat I agree with more often than not, he's just glaringly incompetent at actually getting things done.

Bruce Rauner isn't crazy. He's just a small-beans, state-level version of Mitt Romney.

It seems like the IL GOP's problem is that their candidates are either crazy true believers from downstate or Outer Chicagoland, or they're finance/PE douches like Rauner or the infamous Jack Ryan.

I'll agree that he isn't the craziest offering, but it really speaks to the field they always offer.  The past few cycles have been the Republicans' race to lose, not the Democrats's race to win, and boy did they ever lose it.  Personally I was expecting Quinn not to seek reelection and did a rather hard facepalm when he did.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2014, 09:34:19 PM »

Believe me, he's not.  As someone who strongly campaigns for him, it's only because the Republicans keep coming up with the craziest candidates at the governor's level.  I mean, Quinn seems like a nice guy, and probably is the type of Democrat I agree with more often than not, he's just glaringly incompetent at actually getting things done.
Would Dillard or Rutherford be doing better than Rauner?
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2014, 10:35:07 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2014, 10:46:06 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2014, 02:36:39 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2014, 05:10:52 AM »

Believe me, he's not.  As someone who strongly campaigns for him, it's only because the Republicans keep coming up with the craziest candidates at the governor's level.  I mean, Quinn seems like a nice guy, and probably is the type of Democrat I agree with more often than not, he's just glaringly incompetent at actually getting things done.
Would Dillard or Rutherford be doing better than Rauner?

Well, it depends.  If we accounted for just issue positions and removed the events of the primary campaign, then probably.  However, because of the mudslinging that went on there Rauner remained the "cleanest".  Granted, scandals and such matter, obviously, or else we wouldn't be having this conversation.  I think from a detached, purely analytical point of view sitting at this time last year, the Republicans' best chance to have the race as a lock would have been to go for Rutherford.  The four way primary really exhausted a lot of the candidate's strength, and having Brady in there as a rerun of 2010 was probably a bad move, even if I can see why from some people's point of view it may have seemed like a good idea, namely the closeness of the race.  However, while 2014 isn't going to be a great year for Democrats (understatement), 2010 was likely even worse, and I can't see Brady ever doing any better than he did then, even if Quinn repeatedly dropping the ball.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2014, 05:21:16 AM »


Pataki 1994 probably takes the cake there. In the 8 days before the election, there were 4 polls where Cuomo was up double digits.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 11:47:07 AM »

I would say so. It takes a lot of talent to b a Democrat who wins Cook County by a landslide margin and thus carries the whole state. Pat Quinn is very talented in that regard.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2014, 11:50:48 AM »

For a Democrat, yes. He's an attack dog that doesn't shy away from old school tactics.
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