High Point University/SurveyUSA: Tie in NC, Gardner+4 in CO, Shaheen+2 in NH (user search)
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« on: October 13, 2014, 12:04:08 PM »

The Colorado sample is too white, was 81% white in 2010 and will not be 84% this year.
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 12:06:26 PM »

22% in 2010 were 65 and older, the 34% 65 and up figure here is absurd.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 12:11:19 PM »

Given CO demographics, a figure of around 79% white is probably realistic here. I don't see why that should even be disputed.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 12:14:47 PM »

If Udall loses the white vote by single digits he is winning this thing without a doubt. CO whites went 54-44 for Romney and Obama won it by over 5.5. The fact that the 18-39 group is Gardner's best raises questions about the sample too. Missing younger voters who use cell phones only is probably a big reason some Dems have outperformed polls recently.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 12:26:53 PM »

Given CO demographics, a figure of around 79% white is probably realistic here. I don't see why that should even be disputed.


Ah, if you are referring to polls like this Quinnipiac poll that are 80% white, well, have at it.

Dems have a history of outperforming polls in this state. Wouldn't shock me one bit if Gardner leads everything by a few points like Buck did and then loses on election night. But you can take it to the bank that the electorate will not be 84% white.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 12:38:11 PM »

Maybe the final results will be accurate but even CNN, Survey USA and NBC Marist were off by a few points in Colorado in 2012. Weighting by party ID is problematic like Ramussen does it. However, it's weird how all these pre-election polls have Rs in the plurality but Ds had a +5 edge in both 2010 and 2012. These polls might be missing Hispanic and young voters. Curious if any of these pollsters have adjusted their methodology after missing in this state.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 12:39:37 PM »


You have a history that has proven yourself to be a true moron. I'm sure you're getting ready for Corbett's second term!
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 12:50:56 PM »

A lot of these polls have shown Hispanics going Democratic like 55-40 and then on election day the figure is closer to 70-30.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 12:51:59 PM »

NC just has too many undecideds, they should have pushed leaners more. NH is a close race but its like Ohio in 2012 where one side leads every poll. Not a huge fan of YouGov because they survey the same people again but their 2012 and latest results make more sense with the age breakdown.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 01:51:54 PM »

Nate Cohn is already bashing the sample
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 03:56:22 PM »

Gardner by two in the Denver Post SUSA poll today.

What are the demographics of this one?
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