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« on: October 13, 2014, 10:06:43 AM »

http://polls.saintleo.edu/hillary-clinton-continues-to-maintain-lead-in-2016-field/

Clinton 49
Christie 34

Clinton 53
Bush 33

Clinton 53
Rubio 30

Clinton 54
Paul 30

Clinton 54
Cruz 27

What a wonderful poll! Multiple thrashings!
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 10:14:46 AM »

I want a Ted Cruz thrashing.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 11:20:24 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 11:48:01 AM »

Nothing would bring this country together more than a beatdown of Smug Teddy.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 11:54:43 AM »

Just like that FL-26 poll that's tough to fully trust, this one is the same. I think Hillary wins FL but a 20 plus point win is not happening.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2014, 11:55:43 AM »

Looks reasonable.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 01:02:39 PM »


The margins are obviously inflated, but this isn't the first poll to show her up double digits in Florida...
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 02:47:44 PM »

This suggests that Hillary Clinton would win Florida with the largest percentage that any Democratic nominee has gotten there since FDR won the state with 70% of the vote in 1944.

In case you were wondering, what about 1964?  LBJ won it  51.15% to 48.85%, which was his second-weakest win in a 44-state blowout.  
  
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 02:51:42 PM »

Just like that FL-26 poll that's tough to fully trust, this one is the same. I think Hillary wins FL but a 20 plus point win is not happening.

The ceiling for a Democratic nominee for President is likely 54-56% now. The only analogue that I can see to that is one of the Eisenhower elections of the 1950s. I figure that if that happens, many Republicans will be looking for a hockey or basketball game -- or possibly an old movie.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 03:31:53 PM »


Where's the PDF?
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2014, 07:58:31 PM »

Again this is the case of a pretty solidified Dem vote, and of a fractured GOP one. Once the GOP has figured out who it wants, then the GOP vote will coalesce.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2014, 08:04:40 PM »

Again this is the case of a pretty solidified Dem vote, and of a fractured GOP one. Once the GOP has figured out who it wants, then the GOP vote will coalesce.

Though that can't bring them too much solace when Hillary is above 50 in all but one matchup.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2014, 08:58:14 PM »

The coming spankings will be good.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2014, 09:01:50 PM »

She's a great Dem candidate for Florida.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2014, 09:12:18 PM »

Again this is the case of a pretty solidified Dem vote, and of a fractured GOP one. Once the GOP has figured out who it wants, then the GOP vote will coalesce.

Though that can't bring them too much solace when Hillary is above 50 in all but one matchup.

Oh, of course. But the reality is, once the GOP have their standard-barer, they'll soar well into the 40s. No matter how good a candidate is for FL... there is a reasonable ceiling that Hillary is getting close to in these polls.
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2014, 12:00:01 AM »

This isn't surprising. She won it in the "disputed" primary, and has lots of the demographics in her favor. But yeah, we clearly need somebody more electable like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren at the top of the ticket so that we can expand our margins of victory in Vermont!
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2014, 12:00:15 AM »

Unless we have a near-flip between the Democratic and Republican Parties since the 1950's (I have made suggestions that President Obama has started picking off some of the demographics of Eisenhower voters of the 1950s) and Hillary Clinton holds onto those, Hillary Clinton is not going to win anything like 55% of the Presidential vote in Florida. Has the "Rational Right" started to drift Democratic without going to the political Left?

A few pointers:

1. Air strikes will at most weaken ISIS. The Air Force does not take territory or prisoners.

2. The economy can melt down. We have had a recovery that may begin to unravel at any time.

3. The Republicans have deep pockets for political campaigns.

4. The Republicans know how to exploit fear even if they are culpable of creating the fearsome situation. "Peonage or death!" is as vile an offer as "Your money or your life!"  -- but it has proved effective at times.

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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2014, 12:07:46 AM »

This isn't surprising. She won it in the "disputed" primary, and has lots of the demographics in her favor. But yeah, we clearly need somebody more electable like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren at the top of the ticket so that we can expand our margins of victory in Vermont!

but muh colorado
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 03:52:21 PM »

Unless we have a near-flip between the Democratic and Republican Parties since the 1950's (I have made suggestions that President Obama has started picking off some of the demographics of Eisenhower voters of the 1950s) and Hillary Clinton holds onto those, Hillary Clinton is not going to win anything like 55% of the Presidential vote in Florida. Has the "Rational Right" started to drift Democratic without going to the political Left?

A few pointers:

1. Air strikes will at most weaken ISIS. The Air Force does not take territory or prisoners.

2. The economy can melt down. We have had a recovery that may begin to unravel at any time.

3. The Republicans have deep pockets for political campaigns.

4. The Republicans know how to exploit fear even if they are culpable of creating the fearsome situation. "Peonage or death!" is as vile an offer as "Your money or your life!"  -- but it has proved effective at times.



If the Republican nominee is Ted Cruz, Bobby Jindal, etc. Clinton will do reasonably well with the Republican electorate.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2014, 02:17:24 AM »

Prevailing Democrats carrying Florida will typically get 2 to 5 percentage points there less than their national margins. If Hillary would carry Florida by this large of a margin, than carrying New York with 70 percent of the statewide vote is plausible. And her national margin would be so large she would have a landslide of more than 400 electoral votes with the carriage of four out of every five states on average.
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