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IceSpear
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 09:47:32 AM »

Only 3% of NH Democrats said they would never vote for Hillary. The "widespread liberal discontent" about her is much ado about nothing.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2014, 02:06:23 PM »

The 2000 election has left a scar on the psyche of the left.  There's no way the green party will get significant traction any time soon. 
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2014, 05:18:42 PM »

Ted Cruz could legitimately eradicate Warren by 15 percent. I hope she runs.

I assume you mean in Texas?
I'm talking about the popular vote.

Yes, the popular vote in Texas.
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2014, 06:55:10 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 07:01:52 PM by m4567 »

Warren is not going to run, especially since unlike Obama in 2008. She respects Hillary.

She might run if Hillary decides to quit politics by 2016, but she'll loose massively to a moderate republican if she manages to win the democratic candidacy.

Alsowasn't Obama supposed to be the far-left's Elizabeth Warren back in 2008?


If Warren even somehow manages to get elected, just like Obama. In many years down the road they'll just be complaining about how "Warren is a secret conservative/center-right" Like the far-left/radical base of thedemocratic party are calling Obama today.

President's always change their policies when they have to experience more of the political issues from the broader range and not the ideological bubble they had when they got elected.

Thats why Obama went from cap and trade, closing gitmo, wanting to revoke the Patriot act, leaving Iraq, more gun control. To reversing those positions slowly up to today.

Bill Clinton campaigned on cutting taxes and establishing a universal single payer healthcare system. To doing neither of that because cutting taxes would of not allowed the budget surplus in his second term. And the healthcare debacle became a mess that he led the democrats to lose the house of representatives in 40 years.

Reagan also had to raise some taxes back when the deficit grew.

And HW bush did it also despite promising "No new taxes"


In thr article she wants Obama to "argue for the positions" she wants. Even though he has already done so and many democrats were misguided about how much power a President really has. And no attempt at persuasion can change members of the other party to vote for what you want. And they don't have to because they were voted specifically to oppose the policies of the opposite party. Otherwise the voters would of voted for the party of the president. Let's remember that Bush campaigned after the 2004 election for an amendment to ban gay marriage and it dropped when not even his own party liked the idea. You can not force congress to vote to approve your idea just by talking about it.


Besides, Warren has little clue about Wall street besides left wing jargon. Its a bid disheartening when i hear people still to this day believe that the 2008 crisis had "one single cause and had it bwen stopped the crash wouldn't of happened"






You forgot a couple: Reagan grew the deficit and softened his stance on the cold war during the second term. There may even be more, but I can't think of any right now.
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