Poll: Impact of the incoming Tea Party Congress on Hillary Clinton's campaign
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Question: How will a Tea Party Congress affect Hillary's chances in the general election in 2016?
#1
Help; a government shutdown helps the executive
 
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Help; she can run against one-party control
 
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Help; other (explain in comments)
 
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No effect; Republican presidential candidate can distance himself from the Tea Party
 
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No effect; Republican Congress will show self-discipline, waiting for a GOP Presidnet
 
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No effect; other (explain in comments)
 
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Hurt; Republicans will pass a bold agenda, making her look week
 
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Hurt; Republicans will demonstrate they are ready to govern responsibly
 
#9
Hurt; other (explain in comments)
 
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Brittain33
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« on: October 14, 2014, 07:58:46 AM »

"week" should be "weak," but there's no way to edit.

It looks likely that Tea Party favorites like Joni Ernst and Tom Cotton will join Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and the non-Tea Party caucus majority in a new GOP majority in 2015 alongside a GOP House. Assuming Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, how does this shake up the 2016 race?
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 10:19:11 AM »

I fully expect a government shutdown after the 2014 elections. The question, I suppose, is whether the electorate has enough of a memory, or whether Democrats have the ability to keep such a thing on voters' minds, that it'll even be remembered by the time the 2016 election happens.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2014, 10:43:02 AM »

Someone described 2014 as the year of the Goldilocks Republicans. Tea Party challengers (See Kansas, Kentucky and Mississippi) lost, but the people who won were appealing to both the tea party and the establishment Republicans. They're in agreement on Tom Cotton, Ben Sasse, Cory Gardner and Joni Ernst, all of whom are conservative but unlikely to sabotage the leadership. And there are a few other likely and plausible Senators who aren't seriously associated with the tea party (Dan Sullivan of Alaska, Thom Tills of North Carolina, Tim Johnson of South Dakota, James Lankford of Oklahoma, Steve Daines of Montana, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana.)

As for House elections, gains are generally a good thing for Boehner and co. It makes it easier to pass things on a party-line vote.

With the publicity Rand and Cruz got for their filibusters, there are more incentives for new Senators to grandstand, but it doesn't seem the new guys will be as problematic.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 10:47:27 AM »

I thought it was Mike Rounds of South Dakota?
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 10:54:24 AM »

We have to wait until after election day to discuss this scenario, given that literally anything is possible this cycle. Still, I think a GOP controlled Congress would help Hillary because then the entire legislative branch will refuse to legislate for two years.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 02:02:17 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2014, 02:08:14 PM by Mister Mets »

I thought it was Mike Rounds of South Dakota?
Yeah. Typo.

We have to wait until after election day to discuss this scenario, given that literally anything is possible this cycle. Still, I think a GOP controlled Congress would help Hillary because then the entire legislative branch will refuse to legislate for two years.
That's about a Republican controlled Congress rather than one where the tea party has more of a voice.

Generally, every Republican elected is good for the leadership because it means they don't need everyone's vote, which avoids a few embarrassments.

Republicans could do more to pass things through the House and Senate, forcing Democrats to be the ones vetoing and filibustering popular items.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 02:29:35 PM »

Republican Congress=Tea Party Congress???
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2014, 02:48:24 PM »

Republican Congress=Tea Party Congress??
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2014, 02:50:31 PM »

Hurt (other): The decrease in the number of uninsured Americans and the country's gradual economic recovery will be attributed to the fact that the Republicans gained full control of Congress in 2014 Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2014, 03:16:05 PM »

Republican Congress=Tea Party Congress???

Ted Cruz is going to have a larger soapbox.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2014, 03:47:13 PM »

The last thing we need is another President Clinton with a GOP Congress.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2014, 03:58:27 PM »

Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich worked together just fine (the 1995 shutdown was the exception, not the rule) . Hopefully Hillary and Boehner can do the same.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2014, 04:07:51 PM »

Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich worked together just fine (the 1995 shutdown was the exception, not the rule) . Hopefully Hillary and Boehner can do the same.

That's a very bad thing. Do we need another Glass Steagal to lead to the next Great Recession? Do we need another telecom deregulation? Do we need another gutting of the safety net? Do we another Mickey Mouse copyright extension? Do we need another DMCA (PIPA)?  There was nothing but right-wing legislation.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2014, 06:22:44 PM »

Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich worked together just fine (the 1995 shutdown was the exception, not the rule) . Hopefully Hillary and Boehner can do the same.

That's a very bad thing. Do we need another Glass Steagal to lead to the next Great Recession? Do we need another telecom deregulation? Do we need another gutting of the safety net? Do we another Mickey Mouse copyright extension? Do we need another DMCA (PIPA)?  There was nothing but right-wing legislation.
Many of the things Clinton and Gingrich agreed on won broad, bipartisan support:

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2014, 06:27:35 PM »

The last thing we need is another President Clinton with a GOP Congress.

This says Clinton's campaign, not presidency. Assuming the GOP wins the majority this year, Democrats have a very good chance of gaining it back in 2016, and a small chance of gaining back the House as well.

As for the question, this is the silver lining for me if the GOP takes the Senate. At the moment the public hates Congress, but Congress is split between the Democrats and Republicans, so all the blame can't go to one party. But if Republicans completely control it, all the blame for government dysfunction can go on them. I also fully expect the GOP to overreach and try something stupid. Even if not a full blown government shutdown, something similar. So Hillary gets to run against the broken "do nothing" and/or "do awful things" Congress.
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2014, 06:30:34 PM »

The last thing we need is another President Clinton with a GOP Congress.

I can hear the sound of everything being cut already!
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2014, 07:23:47 AM »

I think it's going to help her campaign the same way the utter disaster of 1994 helped Bill Clinton's re-election, and the same way the 2010 fiasco won Obama's re-election. I think if the Republicans retake the Senate in 2014, it guarantees Democrats will win it back in 2016, and increases the likelihood of a Democratic Presidential victory as well.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2014, 05:12:23 PM »

Thank god Hillary is going to run and probably win in 2016. She is the only thing standing between a full blown Randian Tea Party radical take over of America.

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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 05:14:24 PM »

Thank god Hillary is going to run and probably win in 2016. She is the only thing standing between a full blown Randian Tea Party radical take over of America.

Don't be silly. The latter will be a good thing because it would be the catalyst for viva la revolucion. Nader 2016!

But seriously, who voted for "Hurt; Republicans will demonstrate they are ready to govern responsibly"
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 10:01:32 PM »

It will have a negative impact on a Clinton campaign, in the sense that TEA Party engagement will increase anti-Dem turnout.  But I don't see that changing much except around the margins.  Right now, it just seems to me that Hillary's electoral strengths are so powerful that her most formidable enemy is herself.  She might pick the wrong allies, run a bad campaign, or the opposition might successfully portray her in too negative a light to be elected.  I don't think those possibilities are more likely than not, but if one or more comes to pass, it won't be because of the TEA Party.
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