CO-Latino Decisions/NCLRAF: Udall wallops Gardner among Latinos
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« on: October 20, 2014, 11:47:47 AM »

66-17 Udall



http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2014/10/15/new-nclrafld-poll-in-colorado-udall-leads-gardner-55-14-among-latinos

There's also a NC Latino poll, but I guess it's not so important since NC is more of a Black state and not a Latino state like CO.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2014, 11:49:13 AM »

PPP should have CO numbers today or tomorrow. 'Would like to see if they match this.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2014, 11:51:06 AM »

PPP should have CO numbers today or tomorrow. 'Would like to see if they match this.

Yepp.

But the question is if the Latinos are also showing up to vote. If they don't, this margin is useless.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2014, 11:56:20 AM »

This is interesting. I remember in 2012, the polls that showed Romney-Obama tightening all had sub samples in every state of Obama only winning Latinos 55-40 or the like but Latino Decisions came with 73-21 Obama and that was right.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2014, 12:24:40 PM »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 12:43:06 PM »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
There is no way that's happening.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 12:45:13 PM »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
There is no way that's happening.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 12:48:15 PM »

PPP should have CO numbers today or tomorrow. 'Would like to see if they match this.

Yepp.

But the question is if the Latinos are also showing up to vote. If they don't, this margin is useless.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 01:13:53 PM »

Clearly Gardners moving to the center on the immigration issue is having a huge impact. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 01:14:13 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2014, 01:43:43 PM by Wulfric »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
Considering even Buck was coming within 5 points of Udall in some polling last winter, an 8-11 Udall victory is out of the question with Gardner being a much better candidate then Buck.

You're assuming that Latino turnout will be EVEN HIGHER than it was in 2012, and there's NEVER been a midterm election that had HIGHER turnout among minorities then the presidential election immediately preceding it. Midterm election turnout is always more republican than the presidential election immediately preceding it, even in years like 1998, so any suggestion that Udall can outperform Obama is ridiculous and has no validity whatsoever.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2014, 01:21:09 PM »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
Considering even Buck was coming within 5 points of Udall in some polling last winter, an 8-11 Udall victory is out of the question with Gardner being a much better candidate for Buck.

You're assuming that Latino turnout will be EVEN HIGHER than it was in 2012, and there's NEVER been a midterm election that had HIGHER turnout among minorities then the presidential election immediately preceding it. Midterm election turnout is always more republican than the presidential election immediately preceding it, even in years like 1998, so any suggestion that Udall can outperform Obama is ridiculous and has no validity whatsoever.

Just to clarify- Buck and Gardner basically have the same views but Gardner just has really good social skills (potential VP pick?)?
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2014, 01:25:23 PM »

If this holds, Udall is on pace for a 8-11 point victory.
Considering even Buck was coming within 5 points of Udall in some polling last winter, an 8-11 Udall victory is out of the question with Gardner being a much better candidate for Buck.

You're assuming that Latino turnout will be EVEN HIGHER than it was in 2012, and there's NEVER been a midterm election that had HIGHER turnout among minorities then the presidential election immediately preceding it. Midterm election turnout is always more republican than the presidential election immediately preceding it, even in years like 1998, so any suggestion that Udall can outperform Obama is ridiculous and has no validity whatsoever.

I think he was being sarcastic.

Gardner is not going lose, let alone by 8 to 11 points.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2014, 01:27:34 PM »

PPP should have CO numbers today or tomorrow. 'Would like to see if they match this.

Yepp.

But the question is if the Latinos are also showing up to vote. If they don't, this margin is useless.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2014, 01:40:56 PM »

This will be an interesting test of political power. Udalls have a serious machine here in Northern NM pulling Hispanics out, not to mention environmentalists. I imagine that carries into Southern CO. Hickenlooper's brewing ties also make him a huge establishment favorite in CO.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2014, 02:05:49 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2014, 02:22:42 PM »

Dominating!
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2014, 02:26:47 PM »

Like clockwork.
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2014, 02:26:57 PM »

What is with the rampant amount of empty quoting in the poll threads?
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2014, 02:30:44 PM »

If this poll is true, so much for the GOP making progress in attracting Latino voters.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 02:51:27 PM »

They forgot to poll whites.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2014, 02:52:25 PM »


That's because the browns are hunting them down throughout the Mountain West Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2014, 04:30:42 PM »

I think we can trust Latino Decisions to capture the mood of Latino voters accurately.
The question now arising: Why is Udall so heavily favored compared to Gardner?
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2014, 04:44:54 PM »


That's because the browns are hunting them down throughout the Mountain West Cheesy

I have no idea of what you're trying to say.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2014, 04:46:23 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2014, 04:58:08 PM by Senator Polnut »

This is the element that I'm interested in. Latino turnout will decide this race, count on it.

It's krazen... his... "sensitivities" on issues of race are well known.
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2014, 04:51:44 PM »

I think we can trust Latino Decisions to capture the mood of Latino voters accurately.
The question now arising: Why is Udall so heavily favored compared to Gardner?


74% support raising the minimum wage, 75% are against loosening EPA restrictions, 84% support Medicaid expansion.

The issues Gardner has moderated himself on aren't issues the Hispanics of Colorado care about.
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