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IceSpear
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« on: October 21, 2014, 08:12:39 PM »

http://youtu.be/FE_TQ4kA5zw

This was posted on the other thread, but I think it warrants its own. Colorado Dems, let's talk: what the hell is wrong with this guy? It's not only this, but a few months ago he said he didn't want to sign the gun bill, but did anyway because a staffer said he would. Does this guy have no spine whatsoever? Is it just the desperation kicking in? Also, why does Natalie Tennant get relentlessly pounded for comments less audacious than these (despite being from a much redder state) while he gets off scot free?
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »

He's not as hated as someone like Tennant because he's actually going to win his election for his party, and spine or not, he did end up signing the gun bills.

And say what he wants, his state did expand Medicaid and did their own exchange, so I assume that's why everyone blows off his stance on the ACA. Just like everyone blows off his position on recreational marijuana legalization.

So people didn't actually care about what Tennant said, they just cared that she was losing while saying it? That doesn't really make sense to me. I didn't particularly care about her comments since she's in West Virginia and Manchin basically did the same thing in 2010 (and nobody seemed to care then), but Atlas's thread on the subject would make you think she was Satan incarnate. I didn't particularly care about Hickenlooper's gun comments either, but combined with this one it seems as if it's becoming a trend.

Hickenlooper has always been a moderate (remember, he is pro-fracking). He's only been perceived as liberal because the legislature was very liberal and passing liberal laws, basically forcing him to sign them. He was never out in front advocating for any of those bills though.

It's not really about whether or not he's a moderate though. It's about his ridiculously transparent backpedalling after the fact. He had a choice to veto the gun bill, not to set up Obamacare exchanges, etc. and he didn't. That was his position, so stick with it. The whole "I didn't really want to do those things, but the legislature/Obama/my staffer MADE me!" is pretty weak and makes him look incredibly spineless.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2014, 10:38:04 PM »

A Democrat who thinks the ACA should have been designed differently?  Oh heavens!  Doesn't he know it was birthed fully formed from the head of Ted Kennedy?

That's not really my point though.

I mean, look at it this way. Mark Pryor, a guy who ran ads touting his support of Obamacare (though granted, he didn't actually call it that in the ad), is consistently pilloried on this forum as a worthless DINO. Meanwhile, Hickenlooper leaves this giant turd on our doorstep, and we're going to pretend like we don't smell a thing? Let's try to have some consistency.
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