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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: October 23, 2014, 12:40:35 PM »

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/miss-him-yet-republicans-promise-to-bring-back-the-w-days-if-they-can-take-the-senate/
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 12:43:45 PM »

Woohoo we're expanding Medicaid and passing immigration reform!!!

To be fair, messages from RNC/DNC to donors are for people who really believe statements like that.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 12:44:59 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 12:48:27 PM by They call me PR »

Woohoo we're expanding Medicaid and passing immigration reform!!!

Don't distract us with your liberal nitpicking.

EDIT: Fair enough. But consider that these are the same people who are supposedly more attentive, educated, and informed about politics than most everyone else. The bar seems depressingly low.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 01:04:03 PM »

You don't have to be wise to make a lot of money.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 02:30:31 PM »

Bush's rehabilitation among the conservative public is old news. It was mostly finished by the end of Obama's first term. Rehabilitation among historians will take longer.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 02:31:26 PM »

I am having such a facepalm right now that my hand is eating my face.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 02:54:46 PM »

Bush's rehabilitation among the conservative public is old news. It was mostly finished by the end of Obama's first term. Rehabilitation among historians will take longer.

LOL, keep dreaming. It's not really hard to convince former True Believers that Bush wasn't too bad after all, especially now that a black guy is in the White House. Historians are quite another story.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 03:16:14 PM »

George W. Bush was neither principled, conservative, or a leader.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 03:39:03 PM »

The RNC's apologizing for Bush has been going on since 2000 and never stopped. There's been no rehabilitation -- they never stopped, for whatever reason.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 06:16:36 PM »

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There is so much wrong with this, its funny. 

A). The idea that Bush was a 'principled conservative'.
B). Promising that they'll be just like Bush when they win the Senate, like its a positive thing.
C). Expecting leadership, or anything other than deadlock, from the Senate.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2014, 06:22:39 PM »

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There is so much wrong with this, its funny. 

A). The idea that Bush was a 'principled conservative'.
B). Promising that they'll be just like Bush when they win the Senate, like its a positive thing.
C). Expecting leadership, or anything other than deadlock, from the Senate.

The idea that Bush wasn't conservative is something political geeks can entertain based on various inane criteria (such as: you are not a conservative if you increase debt or create any new public programs (even if they are based on conservative values), but by common standards he was a conservative.
Atlas posters claiming that politician like Reagan and Bush 43 wasn't really conservative just shows how detached from common discourse this forum is.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 06:24:51 PM »

Bush's rehabilitation among the conservative public is old news. It was mostly finished by the end of Obama's first term. Rehabilitation among historians will take longer.

The public (conservative or not) are generally fickle and have a short attention span. Historians do not, thankfully.

I suppose Bush just looks better compared to the yahoos that have been the national GOP standard-bearers.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2014, 06:39:09 PM »

The idea that Bush wasn't conservative is something political geeks can entertain based on various inane criteria (such as: you are not a conservative if you increase debt or create any new public programs (even if they are based on conservative values),
Straw men.

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Those standards being?

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I've met plenty of people (mostly Republicans, though also some Democrats who think we has a hypocrite) who think that Bush wasn't a "real conservative" on issues like spending, education, etc.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2014, 06:46:52 PM »

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There is so much wrong with this, its funny. 

A). The idea that Bush was a 'principled conservative'.
B). Promising that they'll be just like Bush when they win the Senate, like its a positive thing.
C). Expecting leadership, or anything other than deadlock, from the Senate.

The idea that Bush wasn't conservative is something political geeks can entertain based on various inane criteria (such as: you are not a conservative if you increase debt or create any new public programs (even if they are based on conservative values), but by common standards he was a conservative.
Atlas posters claiming that politician like Reagan and Bush 43 wasn't really conservative just shows how detached from common discourse this forum is.
Obviously Bush was conservative, but being a principled conservative implies that he never strayed from conservative principles, which is simply not true. (Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind come to mind).
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