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« on: October 23, 2014, 08:37:37 PM »

What is your opinion of the Massachusetts Attorney General, former 2010 special Senate election candidate and current 2014 Democratic gubernatorial nominee?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 08:54:42 PM »

A disgrace to the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 09:22:27 PM »

Ugh, huge HP.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 09:44:56 PM »

FF.

I think the only reason Coakley is so hated among Democrats is because her loss was the canary in the coal mine for the 2010 GOP wave. Instead of facing the reality that we were in for a huge shellacking, we instead chose to pin it all on Coakley to make ourselves feel better (I should know, I did it as well). It was a similar dynamic with Alex Sink. Instead of accepting her loss was the harbinger of a decent GOP year (even if not a wave), Dems chose to blame her for everything as well rather than taking into account the national mood and the implications for the upcoming midterm.

Don't get me wrong, Coakley ran a horrible campaign in 2010. And while it's been much better this year, she's still not exactly setting the world on fire. But I strongly believe this is why she's hated with such vicious intensity among some Democrats.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 09:53:06 PM »

Objectively (for non-political reasons) a horrible person. To quote myself:

My vote is more about how Martha Coakley is a truly evil - and I do not use the term lightly - person than anything else (although I do like Baker). Dorothy Rabinowitz provides a short summary of her 1990s-early 2000s reporting on the Fells Acres Day Care/Amirault family case here.

The long and short of it is that during the "Satanic ritual abuse"/hypnosis/"recovered memory" hysteria, in 1986, the Amirault family, proprietors of Fells Acres Day Care, were alleged by "recovered memory" specialists to have repeatedly sodomized children with assorted sharp household implements (healing the wounds with their supernatural Satanist powers), while in a "magic room" of the day care that didn't exist, while dressed in clown suits, while sacrificing animals.

The elderly matriarch, Violet, was convicted and sentenced to 30 years in prison, as was her daughter Cheryl, while son Gerald was sentenced to 40. By the 1990s, thanks in large part to Rabinowitz's reporting, it was obvious to anyone that the Amiraults were innocent, including the Massachusetts Parole Board (which is one of the least lenient in the country). However, Coakley used her position as Middlesex District Attorney to prevent the Amiraults' release; Violet died in prison, while she managed to prevent Cheryl's release until 1999 and Gerald's until 2004, simply because Coakley thought it would be politically advantageous to her. (When Cheryl and Gerald were finally paroled, Coakley applied the condition that they be forbidden from speaking publicly about the case!)

This isn't a isolated incident, either, when Kenny Waters was proven not to have committed the murder he was accused of, Coakley fought tooth and nail to prevent his release. There was a movie made about the case, Conviction, starring Hillary Swank; suffice it to say that it, rightly, does not put Martha Coakley in a positive light.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 10:28:14 PM »

A disgrace to the Democratic Party humanity.

FTFY
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 10:39:46 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 11:54:58 PM »

A disgrace to the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2014, 12:05:48 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=398I5CCjZPM

MARTHA BROKELY

we ain't got it!

remeber when yo mama pretended to be the tree!
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2014, 12:20:22 AM »

I really like her. Its a shame she's struggling, again, to seal the deal this year.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2014, 12:36:22 AM »


For the reasons wormyguy discussed.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2014, 12:41:51 AM »

Needs to do herself and her state a favor and just retire, for Christ's sake.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2014, 01:32:28 AM »

Horrible. When you run a complete disaster of a campaign, you go away. Her running again would be equivalent to Todd Akin running again. I'm sure she's nice and has decent political views but she has damaged the party by being a failure.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2014, 01:54:57 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2014, 02:24:16 AM »

Horrible. When you run a complete disaster of a campaign, you go away. Her running again would be equivalent to Todd Akin running again. I'm sure she's nice and has decent political views but she has damaged the party by being a failure.

Feingold's campaign was a disaster (he refused to accept outside help) but most people want him to run again. Most people correctly assign the blame to the political climate, not to Feingold even though he made some mistakes. Why isn't this true for Coakley as well? It's hard to think of a time more politically hostile to Democrats than January 2010 (except maybe November 2010). Yes, Massachusetts was much bluer and Coakley's campaign was much worse, but can that really explain this huge difference in sentiment?
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2014, 02:34:15 AM »

Objectively (for non-political reasons) a horrible person. To quote myself:

My vote is more about how Martha Coakley is a truly evil - and I do not use the term lightly - person than anything else (although I do like Baker). Dorothy Rabinowitz provides a short summary of her 1990s-early 2000s reporting on the Fells Acres Day Care/Amirault family case here.

The long and short of it is that during the "Satanic ritual abuse"/hypnosis/"recovered memory" hysteria, in 1986, the Amirault family, proprietors of Fells Acres Day Care, were alleged by "recovered memory" specialists to have repeatedly sodomized children with assorted sharp household implements (healing the wounds with their supernatural Satanist powers), while in a "magic room" of the day care that didn't exist, while dressed in clown suits, while sacrificing animals.

The elderly matriarch, Violet, was convicted and sentenced to 30 years in prison, as was her daughter Cheryl, while son Gerald was sentenced to 40. By the 1990s, thanks in large part to Rabinowitz's reporting, it was obvious to anyone that the Amiraults were innocent, including the Massachusetts Parole Board (which is one of the least lenient in the country). However, Coakley used her position as Middlesex District Attorney to prevent the Amiraults' release; Violet died in prison, while she managed to prevent Cheryl's release until 1999 and Gerald's until 2004, simply because Coakley thought it would be politically advantageous to her. (When Cheryl and Gerald were finally paroled, Coakley applied the condition that they be forbidden from speaking publicly about the case!)

This isn't a isolated incident, either, when Kenny Waters was proven not to have committed the murder he was accused of, Coakley fought tooth and nail to prevent his release. There was a movie made about the case, Conviction, starring Hillary Swank; suffice it to say that it, rightly, does not put Martha Coakley in a positive light.

while this particular case may tickle a pet peeve or two of yours, you must remember that the stated purpose of any DA is to ruin as many people's lives as possible, in the highest profile manner that's possible.  the repressed memory craze and Satanic flair do make this one particularly saucy, but the essentials are repeated all across the country, every single day.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2014, 02:35:53 AM »

I mean, I like how she's probably gonna lose.
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 05:28:49 AM »

Probably the only democrat who ran for governor this year who had a chance against Baker.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 05:58:40 AM »

She's so horrible that if I lived in Massachusetts I'm pretty certain I would vote for Charlie Baker, just to make sure she stays as far away from a Governor's Mansion as much as possible.

Hopefully some of the recent polls that show Baker ahead hold up till Election Day.
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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2014, 06:55:07 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2014, 10:17:55 AM »

She's so horrible that if I lived in Massachusetts I'm pretty certain I would vote for Charlie Baker, just to make sure she stays as far away from a Governor's Mansion as much as possible.

Hopefully some of the recent polls that show Baker ahead hold up till Election Day.

I mean, I'd still rather have a Democrat than a Republican be Governor (unless the Democrat is like Edwin Edwards or whatever) so I wouldn't take Baker over Coakley just to spite her. It's kinda like how I'd vote Hawkins if I lived in New York, but between Cuomo and Astorino, I'd still rather have Cuomo.
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2014, 10:36:55 AM »

FF.

I think the only reason Coakley is so hated among Democrats is because her loss was the canary in the coal mine for the 2010 GOP wave. Instead of facing the reality that we were in for a huge shellacking, we instead chose to pin it all on Coakley to make ourselves feel better (I should know, I did it as well). It was a similar dynamic with Alex Sink. Instead of accepting her loss was the harbinger of a decent GOP year (even if not a wave), Dems chose to blame her for everything as well rather than taking into account the national mood and the implications for the upcoming midterm.

Don't get me wrong, Coakley ran a horrible campaign in 2010. And while it's been much better this year, she's still not exactly setting the world on fire. But I strongly believe this is why she's hated with such vicious intensity among some Democrats.
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2014, 01:59:45 PM »

HP
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2014, 04:51:43 PM »

Horrible. When you run a complete disaster of a campaign, you go away. Her running again would be equivalent to Todd Akin running again. I'm sure she's nice and has decent political views but she has damaged the party by being a failure.

Feingold's campaign was a disaster (he refused to accept outside help) but most people want him to run again. Most people correctly assign the blame to the political climate, not to Feingold even though he made some mistakes. Why isn't this true for Coakley as well? It's hard to think of a time more politically hostile to Democrats than January 2010 (except maybe November 2010). Yes, Massachusetts was much bluer and Coakley's campaign was much worse, but can that really explain this huge difference in sentiment?

That's not why she's an HP. Incompetent campaigns don't make someone HP.

As Wormy said, Coakley used her position to keep innocent people in prison. That's a textbook HP if there ever was one.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2014, 05:44:10 PM »

Probably a nice person to know personally, but MASSIVE HP.
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