Huckabee the favorite to win the Adelson primary?

[Mr. Morden]

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Keep in mind, in the past Huckabee has said that a Palestinian state in the West Bank is "unrealistic", and that "there's no such thing as a Palestinian":

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=101156.msg2125224#msg2125224

Given that, since this appears to be Adelson's top issue, Huck would have the inside track to winning his favor....should he run.

[IceSpear]

Splendid news!

[eric82oslo]

Patronize or patronage?
It's two very different actions as to patronize someone is very negative, while giving someone your patronage means you give them your fatherly protection.

[Mr. Morden]

Again to bring up Huckabee's rather extreme views on Israel/Palestine, as noted in that thread I linked to, here's yet another gem from Huck on the topic, that could potentially win him favor from Adelson, if Adelson is really this far out on the issue as well:

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Huck is bringing up this theme again, now that he's on another trip to Israel.  He's saying that Israelis should be able to build anywhere they want in East Jerusalem, as "God gave them" the land:

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And here:

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/huckabee-says-no-palestinian-823467.html

he calls land for peace an "unrealistic, unworkable and unreachable goal."

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[Mr. Morden]

This also raises the interesting question of how many of the 2016 GOP candidates would answer "yes" to the question "Do you support a two-state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?"

[Matty]

Huckabee would lose 40 states vs hillary clinton. There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

[tpfkaw]

This also raises the interesting question of how many of the 2016 GOP candidates would answer "yes" to the question "Do you support a two-state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?"

None would give a straight yes; the divide would be between the Adelsonites and those who would parrot the AIPAC position statement (PA must recognize Israel as a "Jewish state," Jerusalem undivided, Hamas must disarm, etc. etc.).

[Liberalrocks]

Huckabee would lose 40 states vs hillary clinton. There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

[Likely Voter]

I think Huck may run just to make a statement. He may not want to be president, but he wants to give the evangelical wing a stronger voice in the party. He has been whining about how they are being taken for granted for a while. The recent silence from most in the party after SCOTUS defacto made SSM legal in most of the country pissed him off.  Hey loves making money on FOX but he can afford to take a year off and build his brand, and the money from Adelson wont hurt. If he has to throw in some lines about how great Israel is to his basic stump speech to get the Adelson cash, I'm sure he would be happy to do it.

If Huck gets in, Santorum might as well stay home as he was Huckabee-lite and a Catholic to boot.

[New_Conservative]

Go away Huckabee

[Yelnoc]

I think Huck may run just to make a statement. He may not want to be president, but he wants to give the evangelical wing a stronger voice in the party. He has been whining about how they are being taken for granted for a while. The recent silence from most in the party after SCOTUS defacto made SSM legal in most of the country pissed him off.  Hey loves making money on FOX but he can afford to take a year off and build his brand, and the money from Adelson wont hurt. If he has to throw in some lines about how great Israel is to his basic stump speech to get the Adelson cash, I'm sure he would be happy to do it.

If Huck gets in, Santorum might as well stay home as he was Huckabee-lite and a Catholic to boot.

The problem with that is Huckabee might actually win the nomination. I'm struggling to think of a stronger candidate then him (which is pathetic).

[politicus]

Huckabee would lose 40 states vs hillary clinton. There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

I think 30-32 is more realistic.

[Rockefeller GOP]

I think Huck may run just to make a statement. He may not want to be president, but he wants to give the evangelical wing a stronger voice in the party. He has been whining about how they are being taken for granted for a while. The recent silence from most in the party after SCOTUS defacto made SSM legal in most of the country pissed him off.  Hey loves making money on FOX but he can afford to take a year off and build his brand, and the money from Adelson wont hurt. If he has to throw in some lines about how great Israel is to his basic stump speech to get the Adelson cash, I'm sure he would be happy to do it.

If Huck gets in, Santorum might as well stay home as he was Huckabee-lite and a Catholic to boot.

The problem with that is Huckabee might actually win the nomination. I'm struggling to think of a stronger candidate then him (which is pathetic).

There is NO way he wins.  The evangelical crowd are influential in the GOP, but they're still a small minority.

[IceSpear]

There is NO way he wins.  The evangelical crowd are influential in the GOP, but they're still a small minority.

I'd love to see your reaction if Huckabee won the nomination.

[Rockefeller GOP]

There is NO way he wins.  The evangelical crowd are influential in the GOP, but they're still a small minority.

I'd love to see your reaction if Huckabee won the nomination.

Haha, I wouldn't ... I'd likely vote Democrat.

[Likely Voter]

There is NO way he wins.  The evangelical crowd are influential in the GOP, but they're still a small minority.

The evangelical crowd is a small minority of all voters, but they are a significant part of the GOP. Exit polls in 2012 showed 19% of all voters were White Born Again AND voted for Romney, compare that to 32% of self-identified Republicans and you actually have 2/3s of Republican voters being White Evangelical. If you drill down more to Protestants who attend church weekly and/or those who think abortion should be illegal in ALL cases (including Rape) then you get to maybe 1/3 of GOP voters, which is still a significant portion. Remember Huckabee won IA with 34% of the vote in 2008.

Huckabee would stand a reasonable chance of winning assuming that Perry and/or Cruz is not able to cut too much into his base in the same way that Thompson did back in 04 (which probably cost him from winning SC, which was the turning point for McCain)

[Bull Moose Base]

There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

This is unrealistic. Huckabee and Romney appeal to vastly different groups. Huckabee and Romney would attract about as different sets of voters as 2 consecutive Republican nominees could.

 

There is NO way he wins.  The evangelical crowd are influential in the GOP, but they're still a small minority.

This is also unrealistic. Their numbers are eroding but they're still anywhere from a large minority to a majority of GOP primary voters, i.e. enough to nominate one of their own.That's the reality.

[Mister Mets]

Huckabee's biggest problem in 2008 was a lack of financial support. So Adelson's support could obviously be big.

Otherwise, he's become a weaker candidate since '08. His last general election campaign was in 2002 (where his Democratic opponent got about 47 percent), and he's kinda been in a bubble communicating mainly with friendly crowds (both in terms of primary support and GE support) not quite understanding certain social changes. He would be a top-tier contender for the nomination, but one with a glass jaw.

Huckabee would lose 40 states vs hillary clinton. There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

If you're a libertarian, he's a nightmare candidate: socially conservative, but fiscally moderate (if not liberal.) He might appeal to voters who think the problem with government handouts is that they're not getting their fair share. There are plenty of those guys in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

[pbrower2a]

Mike Huckabee would have difficulty winning outside the Deep and Mountain South against Hillary Clinton except for the safest-R states. He would lose Florida and Virginia, likely North Carolina and Georgia. He'd struggle to win Missouri.

Hillary Clinton at the least wins every state that Barack Obama won in 2008 and Arizona. 

 

[BaconBacon96]

I doubt Huckabee has much of a chance to win the nomination but with Adelson money he can do a strong performance.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

So Huckabee has the same position as most American politicians on Israel/Palestine?

[Mr. Morden]

So Huckabee has the same position as most American politicians on Israel/Palestine?

Most American politicians don't say "there's no such thing as a Palestinian", and openly advocate the removal of Palestinians from the West Bank to be resettled elsewhere.

[tpfkaw]

The evangelical crowd is a small minority of all voters, but they are a significant part of the GOP. Exit polls in 2012 showed 19% of all voters were White Born Again AND voted for Romney, compare that to 32% of self-identified Republicans and you actually have 2/3s of Republican voters being White Evangelical.

Not everyone who voted for Romney is a Republican.

[RI]

There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

This is unrealistic. Huckabee and Romney appeal to vastly different groups. Huckabee and Romney would attract about as different sets of voters as 2 consecutive Republican nominees could.

I would strongly consider voting for Huckabee but would never vote for Romney.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Huckabee would lose 40 states vs hillary clinton. There is not a single person who did  not vote for Romney, that would vote for him. He appeals to no one.

Huck would be completely radioactive in 2/3's of the country but he would be a great cultural fit in the other 1/3 especially the Jeffersonian upper southern states like Missouri , Arkansas , WV etc.

He is actually a nice likeable guy that has some moderate even liberal economic policies. He could appeal to some working class blue collar whites that were turned off by Mr Plutocrat 47 % in 2012. Although he would get slaughtered in the Northeast and West Coast , Hillary might break 70 % in NY and MA.