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« on: October 25, 2014, 04:05:27 PM »
« edited: October 25, 2014, 04:09:57 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Ahh, yes, the great Clinton record of being foes of big banks by deregulating them with Glass-Steagall, which caused the Great Recession.

Also:

 "For goodness' sake, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks." - Hillary Clinton

I hope no one is dumb enough to believe she'll actually go after the banks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 04:19:05 PM »

Ahh, yes, the great Clinton record of being foes of big banks by deregulating them with Glass-Steagall, which caused the Great Recession.

Also:

 "For goodness' sake, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks." - Hillary Clinton

I hope no one is dumb enough to believe she'll actually go after the banks.

Silly me, I must have forgotten when Hillary Clinton voted to repeal Glass-Steagall.

Her husband signed it into law. Now, she's welcome to break with her husband's right-wing record and support reinstating it, but I don't see that happening.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 07:04:37 PM »

Ahh, yes, the great Clinton record of being foes of big banks by deregulating them with Glass-Steagall, which caused the Great Recession.

Also:

 "For goodness' sake, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks." - Hillary Clinton

I hope no one is dumb enough to believe she'll actually go after the banks.

Silly me, I must have forgotten when Hillary Clinton voted to repeal Glass-Steagall.

Her husband signed it into law. Now, she's welcome to break with her husband's right-wing record and support reinstating it, but I don't see that happening.

So what? Hillary is her own person. It's getting kind of old hearing the Hillary haters talk about Hillary as an extension of Bill, it reeks of sexism.

By the way, Gramm–Leach–Bliley passed the Senate 90-8 and the House 362-57. It's also incredibly simplistic to say that it was the only thing that caused the financial meltdown.

She's never called for re-instating Glass-Stegall, so I fail to see how her policies are different than that of her husband. If it wasn't for her husband, we would have never heard of Hillary Rodham. Senator Dorgan warned of the disaster of passing that, and boy was he proven right.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 07:20:53 PM »

By the way, Gramm–Leach–Bliley passed the Senate 90-8 and the House 362-57. It's also incredibly simplistic to say that it was the only thing that caused the financial meltdown.
The repeal of Glas-Steagall didn't cause the financial meltdown; it just made it threatened a vast swath of Americans' financial well-being just like what happened after the Great Depression when everyone lost their savings, and necessitated a larger bailout.

Gee, repeal regulations put in place to help prevent another economic depression, and what did we get? Another economic depression.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending it. It was quite clearly a disaster. I'm just saying that blaming the entire collapse on one piece of legislation is overly simplistic, and that expecting a symbolic but ultimately pointless veto from Bill isn't really logical. Nor is it logical to assume that Hillary's opinions are identical to those of Bill's circa 15 years ago.

Well, she's welcome to come out in favor of reinstating Glass Steagall, but I doubt she will. Truman vetoed Taft-Hartley despite veto proof majorities. If a bill is absolutely terrible, it should be vetoed regardless of how many people voted for it. I mean, the Patriot Act was 99-1, and it was an awful bill.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2014, 08:48:06 PM »

By the way, Gramm–Leach–Bliley passed the Senate 90-8 and the House 362-57. It's also incredibly simplistic to say that it was the only thing that caused the financial meltdown.
The repeal of Glas-Steagall didn't cause the financial meltdown; it just made it threatened a vast swath of Americans' financial well-being just like what happened after the Great Depression when everyone lost their savings, and necessitated a larger bailout.

Gee, repeal regulations put in place to help prevent another economic depression, and what did we get? Another economic depression.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending it. It was quite clearly a disaster. I'm just saying that blaming the entire collapse on one piece of legislation is overly simplistic, and that expecting a symbolic but ultimately pointless veto from Bill isn't really logical. Nor is it logical to assume that Hillary's opinions are identical to those of Bill's circa 15 years ago.

Well, she's welcome to come out in favor of reinstating Glass Steagall, but I doubt she will. Truman vetoed Taft-Hartley despite veto proof majorities. If a bill is absolutely terrible, it should be vetoed regardless of how many people voted for it. I mean, the Patriot Act was 99-1, and it was an awful bill.

I hope she does. I'm sure it'll be discussed during the campaign.

And damn, you just reminded me of that. I knew the Patriot Act was a landslide, but I didn't remember it was 99-1. This just makes me hope Feingold runs for his old seat even more...

Well, I doubt she'll come out in favor of that. Obama is opposed, and yet Cory Booker thinks he's too hard on Wall Street. If you ignore her husband, maybe she doesn't seem quite as bad, but she has defended outsourcing, promoted fracking, and lied about Iraq.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 01:41:21 AM »

I find it interesting that Hillary is just considered an extension of her husband .... not especially enlightened, people. Tongue

Nepotism is enlightened?
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