The Presidents As People Part II

[Mr. Smith]

For those of you who did this in Part I, same rules apply, I hope the decisions are easier because post Civil War is a bit closer to today.

For the those that are new, try and figure out your favorite 5 presidents as people (for example  Carter was fairly nice as a guy, and Clinton was not really),...try to leave out policies and ideology unless absolutely necessary (which in cases such as slavery and universal suffrage are understandable).

I'll vote,but I won't explain until others have voted and posted just for the sake of room for people to express without feeling like this is all a rebuttal.

And yes, I left left out James Garfield, because like William Henry Harrison, he didn't really seem to be in office long enough to get a feel. Most of his tenure was being nearly dead after being shot thanks to malpractice. But if someone desperately wants to make a case, by all means go ahead.

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I chose some standard options and a rather "out there" choice.

Lincoln (duh)
Grant (a fundamentally good, if naive man)
Hoover (a phenomenal philanthroper who simply was overwhelmed by the choices he had to make)
Arthur (went against his "faction" for what was right.)

and this is the curveball:

Taft - next to the showy bombastic nature of TR, Taft rather gets lost amongst the shuffle. But Taft - like many of the Presidents who had no real desire for the office; he was unpretentious and not obsessed on "legacy". If you compare him with the "progressives" he is sandwiched between he really seems like a breath of fresh air.


I actually clicked Harding in lieu of Arthur, because I do think his corruption was more of the Grantian naivete than Nixonian conniving malice; as well as his support for anti-lynching. But then I thought about his screwed up personal life and decided I couldn't endorse someone like that.

Dishonorable mentions: Wilson, Johnson, Hayes, Harrison

[SWE]

Lincoln, Grant, Arthur, Taft and Harding I guess

[Mr. Smith]

I voted for:

Lincoln and Roosevelt (These two are pretty obvious ones, self-made, stood for the little guy, and in the case of Teddy so much persistence)

Grant (He was an excellent guy and his push for reconstruction was amazing, but he was very naive)

Arthur (Stood against corruption, and apparently he had an excellent sense of humor)

Cleveland (Stood against corruption as well, probably tried the hardest of any president to honestly do what seemed right, and since he probably didn't rape anyone he went out of his way to pay for the welfare of a child, and finally he didn't condone the annexation of Hawaii)

Honorable Mentions: Coolidge and Hoover

Dishonorable Mention: Wilson, McKinley, and Harrison

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

 Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

[SWE]

Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

He was shot because he was seen by Revolutionary Anarchist Leon Czolgosz as a symbol of oppression. What did him being "too nice" have to do with anything?

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Hoover seems like the obvious answer here, and I also picked TR.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Lincoln, Grant, Arthur, Cleveland, and Coolidge. I intended to switch my vote from Grant to Hoover, but forgot too.

[ElectionsGuy]

Lincoln, Hoover, Coolidge, Roosevelt, and Cleveland

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

He was shot because he was seen by Revolutionary Anarchist Leon Czolgosz as a symbol of oppression. What did him being "too nice" have to do with anything?

Czolgosz had nothing against McKinley as a person. Seriously, they were greeting each other at a fair when the bullet was fired.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I voted for McKinley due to the effort and time he put into caring for his ill wife throughout their life together.

[H. Ross Peron]

Lincoln, Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt, Coolidge, Hoover

[Mr. Smith]

I wanted to put Hoover or Coolidge in, but the former just ended up being too damn stubborn about everything and his hostility to the Bonus Army knocks him off...he was an excellent ex-president though.

And I do like Coolidge's quietness and cool head, but he didn't treat his wife too well either.

Ultimately Cleveland just comes off better than either.

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Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

He was shot because he was seen by Revolutionary Anarchist Leon Czolgosz as a symbol of oppression. What did him being "too nice" have to do with anything?

Czolgosz had nothing against McKinley as a person. Seriously, they were greeting each other at a fair when the bullet was fired.

I don't think you understand how assassinations work.

[SWE]

Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

He was shot because he was seen by Revolutionary Anarchist Leon Czolgosz as a symbol of oppression. What did him being "too nice" have to do with anything?

Czolgosz had nothing against McKinley as a person. Seriously, they were greeting each other at a fair when the bullet was fired.

And that has literally nothing to do with why Czolgosz shot him

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Only 1 other McKinley voter? The whole reason he was shot was because he was too nice!

He killed > 100,000 Filipinos because he was too nice? OK.