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« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2015, 03:40:38 PM »

Governor, your decision on a very pressing issue is required.
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« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2015, 11:44:12 PM »

Display his head on a pike in my office.

Also, I'm appointing pikachu to be my lieutenant governor.
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« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2015, 01:55:47 AM »

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Governor, your bill is now ready to be signed or vetoed
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« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2015, 02:34:14 AM »

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~Sawx

SirNick, Scourge of the North, is a blackmailing terrorist. We need to actually criminalize blackmail, so I went and actually did it.

Also I have a CJO nomination who will be announced when Talleyrand swears in.
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« Reply #104 on: March 03, 2015, 03:51:53 PM »

^ Do y'all mind if I copy and paste introduce a bill that's modeled after yours?
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« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2015, 04:04:56 PM »

^ Do y'all mind if I copy and paste introduce a bill that's modeled after yours?

Go ahead.
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« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2015, 04:41:23 PM »

Display his head on a pike in my office.

Also, I'm appointing pikachu to be my lieutenant governor.

Horrible Decision.
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« Reply #107 on: March 03, 2015, 08:04:02 PM »
« Edited: March 03, 2015, 08:09:38 PM by cinyc »

It is very sad that you proposed and signed a bill that treats the CJO as a prosecutor.  As I told you when you proposed the bill, the CJO is NOT a prosecutor, but a judge.  

Now, you've created a crime that has to be prosecuted by the CJO.  Who is going to hear the case?  There is no impartial Northeast judge to hear it.  Are you expecting charges be filed before the Altasian Supreme Court?  They could - and should - refuse to hear a case that is solely based on Northeast law.  So your new law is unworkable.

Also, no regional government has the power to ban voting in a regional election.  Federal law is supreme when it comes to voting rights.
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« Reply #108 on: March 03, 2015, 08:27:49 PM »

It is very sad that you proposed and signed a bill that treats the CJO as a prosecutor.  As I told you when you proposed the bill, the CJO is NOT a prosecutor, but a judge.  

Now, you've created a crime that has to be prosecuted by the CJO.  Who is going to hear the case?  There is no impartial Northeast judge to hear it.  Are you expecting charges be filed before the Altasian Supreme Court?  They could - and should - refuse to hear a case that is solely based on Northeast law.  So your new law is unworkable.

Also, no regional government has the power to ban voting in a regional election.  Federal law is supreme when it comes to voting rights.

Yes, that seems to be an oversight that I forgot to carry over when you amended the SirNick is a Terrorist Act. Considering the rapid pace that the Assembly is going at, I have full confidence a fix will be brought up soon.
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« Reply #109 on: March 03, 2015, 08:51:00 PM »

It is very sad that you proposed and signed a bill that treats the CJO as a prosecutor.  As I told you when you proposed the bill, the CJO is NOT a prosecutor, but a judge.  

Now, you've created a crime that has to be prosecuted by the CJO.  Who is going to hear the case?  There is no impartial Northeast judge to hear it.  Are you expecting charges be filed before the Altasian Supreme Court?  They could - and should - refuse to hear a case that is solely based on Northeast law.  So your new law is unworkable.

Also, no regional government has the power to ban voting in a regional election.  Federal law is supreme when it comes to voting rights.

Yes, that seems to be an oversight that I forgot to carry over when you amended the SirNick is a Terrorist Act. Considering the rapid pace that the Assembly is going at, I have full confidence a fix will be brought up soon.

I sent proposed language to Representative Winfield for a fix.

Like I said, though, I don't think we can ban someone from voting in regional elections.  There is an old court case involving the South's attempts to put different requirements for voting in regional elections than the federal ones.  The Atlasian Supreme Court held that they couldn't do so.

Also, while it's probably not your intent, a regional court can't ban anyone from holding federal office.  The "at any level of goverment" clause at the end of the law can't mean that.
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« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2015, 08:53:42 PM »

It is very sad that you proposed and signed a bill that treats the CJO as a prosecutor.  As I told you when you proposed the bill, the CJO is NOT a prosecutor, but a judge.  

Now, you've created a crime that has to be prosecuted by the CJO.  Who is going to hear the case?  There is no impartial Northeast judge to hear it.  Are you expecting charges be filed before the Altasian Supreme Court?  They could - and should - refuse to hear a case that is solely based on Northeast law.  So your new law is unworkable.

Also, no regional government has the power to ban voting in a regional election.  Federal law is supreme when it comes to voting rights.

Yes, that seems to be an oversight that I forgot to carry over when you amended the SirNick is a Terrorist Act. Considering the rapid pace that the Assembly is going at, I have full confidence a fix will be brought up soon.

I sent proposed language to Representative Winfield for a fix.

Like I said, though, I don't think we can ban someone from voting in regional elections.  There is an old court case involving the South's attempts to put different requirements for voting in regional elections than the federal ones.  The Atlasian Supreme Court held that they couldn't do so.

Also, while it's probably not your intent, a regional court can't ban anyone from holding federal office.  The "at any level of goverment" clause at the end of the law can't mean that.

Awesome. Consider my version a placeholder for until he introduces it.
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« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2015, 08:55:48 PM »
« Edited: March 03, 2015, 08:58:58 PM by Barnes »

It is very sad that you proposed and signed a bill that treats the CJO as a prosecutor.  As I told you when you proposed the bill, the CJO is NOT a prosecutor, but a judge.  

Now, you've created a crime that has to be prosecuted by the CJO.  Who is going to hear the case?  There is no impartial Northeast judge to hear it.  Are you expecting charges be filed before the Altasian Supreme Court?  They could - and should - refuse to hear a case that is solely based on Northeast law.  So your new law is unworkable.

Also, no regional government has the power to ban voting in a regional election.  Federal law is supreme when it comes to voting rights.

Yes, that seems to be an oversight that I forgot to carry over when you amended the SirNick is a Terrorist Act. Considering the rapid pace that the Assembly is going at, I have full confidence a fix will be brought up soon.

I sent proposed language to Representative Winfield for a fix.

Like I said, though, I don't think we can ban someone from voting in regional elections.  There is an old court case involving the South's attempts to put different requirements for voting in regional elections than the federal ones.  The Atlasian Supreme Court held that they couldn't do so.

Also, while it's probably not your intent, a regional court can't ban anyone from holding federal office.  The "at any level of goverment" clause at the end of the law can't mean that.

I was waiting for the appropriate time to intervene here.  Yep, that court case (Atlasia v. the Southeast II) was instigated by me during my time as Attorney General in 2010.

I argued (successfully, I might add) that since voter registration is inherently linked to citizenship, no region can maintain any form of voter registration that is different from the federal record.  
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« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2015, 11:47:53 PM »

Looks better than my fix.
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« Reply #113 on: March 04, 2015, 12:08:14 AM »

Well, I will let the NE officeholders figure out the best way to address this issue, but I think that the amendments offered are effective.
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« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2015, 02:19:33 AM »

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Awaiting your signature Mr Governor
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« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2015, 02:36:06 AM »

Vetoed.

While this bill is a good idea in principle, the language in it actually requires, by law, for interns to be paid the minimum wage. Therefore, I must veto it for the same reasons that Matt and pikachu outlined - it denies businesses the freedom to choose to pay their interns more than the minimum.
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« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2015, 12:03:42 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2015, 12:06:25 PM by Speaker Blair »

Vetoed.

While this bill is a good idea in principle, the language in it actually requires, by law, for interns to be paid the minimum wage. Therefore, I must veto it for the same reasons that Matt and pikachu outlined - it denies businesses the freedom to choose to pay their interns more than the minimum.

I didn't want the bill to say that, and I didn't mean it to say that. The intention was that they had to pay the minimum wage or above. Matt and Pikachu misread the bill, or the intentions.

I will amendment it, and send it make to clear this up
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« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2015, 01:27:03 PM »

II have no doubts of your intentions. I'm just saying, the wording was bad.
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« Reply #118 on: March 06, 2015, 09:20:54 AM »

Ready to sign or veto Mr Governor


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« Reply #119 on: March 06, 2015, 03:05:31 PM »

~Sawx. I like the Kurds.

Also appointing rpryor03 as CJO
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« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2015, 03:06:16 PM »

Got another hot of the press.

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« Reply #121 on: March 06, 2015, 04:49:40 PM »

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« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2015, 09:00:04 PM »

Governor Sawx-

It has been mentioned in rpryor's confirmation thread that all it takes is three missed votes for a Northeast Representative to be removed from office.  That is true, under the Northeast Constitution.  But that provision has a long history, and was enacted when there was generally only one piece of legislation on the Assembly floor at a given time.   Now, there can be up to 4 pieces of legislation on the floor simultaneously, if you include the budget.

In order to stop turnover in the Assembly, it might be time to revisit the inactivity provision, increasing the number of missed consecutive votes to at least 6, to reflect this new reality.
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« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2015, 09:44:12 PM »

When I arrived in the game there were two slots for legislation at the same time but the voting period was only 24 hours. We extended the period so representatives had more time to get their vote in. With voting of 48 hours if the speaker doesn't start final votes at the same time, a representative has many days to participate in the vote. That is for the voting function but the representative should also be around for the debate of bills function.
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« Reply #124 on: March 10, 2015, 02:12:18 PM »

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