RNC Chair: Hillary Clinton not really good at politics

[Landslide Lyndon]

Aha...

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/reince-priebus-hillary-clinton-not-really-good-at-politics-112235.html

“There’d be no one you would want more to run against than Hillary Clinton, and on top of it, she’s not really good at politics,” Priebus said, pointing to her recent book tour, which he called a “disaster.”

“She talks off the cuff; it doesn’t work,” he said. “She makes one mistake after the next.”

[IceSpear]

Who does he think he's fooling?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

[politicus]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

No matter what you think the first female HoS is obviously an important symbolic miliestone.

[Knives]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

The only reason people even think about the name 'Clinton' is because of Hillary. Bill is nothing without Hillary.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

No matter what you think the first female HoS is obviously an important symbolic miliestone.

I don't care about symbolism. I care about achievements in office--and I doubt that Hillary will accomplish anything meaningful for women (or anyone other than the ruling elite which will gain from her wars and her dismantling of what remains of the New Deal/Great Society).

Medicare and Medicaid will not last the decade. Long live Obamacare.

[King]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

Hillary was greatly influential in her husband's election as Governor and in 1992. She was more of a running mate to Bill than Gore was.

[IceSpear]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

No matter what you think the first female HoS is obviously an important symbolic miliestone.

I don't care about symbolism. I care about achievements in office--and I doubt that Hillary will accomplish anything meaningful for women (or anyone other than the ruling elite which will gain from her wars and her dismantling of what remains of the New Deal/Great Society).

Medicare and Medicaid will not last the decade. Long live Obamacare.

Nah, I think you're too pessimistic. She'll be at least an okay president.

[MaxQue]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

No matter what you think the first female HoS is obviously an important symbolic miliestone.

I don't care about symbolism. I care about achievements in office--and I doubt that Hillary will accomplish anything meaningful for women (or anyone other than the ruling elite which will gain from her wars and her dismantling of what remains of the New Deal/Great Society).

Medicare and Medicaid will not last the decade. Long live Obamacare.

Nah, I think you're too pessimistic. She'll be at least an okay president.

And she will be more successful in her life than Reince Priebus ever will.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

She's never been good at retail campaigning, in fact she's quite awful at it.  However, that's only one aspect of politics.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Let's not kid ourselves--would Hillary Rodham even have gotten into the Senate, much less SoS? The idea that she's a brilliant politician or that her election would be any sort of victory for women or feminism is a total joke.

No matter what you think the first female HoS is obviously an important symbolic miliestone.

I don't care about symbolism. I care about achievements in office--and I doubt that Hillary will accomplish anything meaningful for women (or anyone other than the ruling elite which will gain from her wars and her dismantling of what remains of the New Deal/Great Society).

Medicare and Medicaid will not last the decade. Long live Obamacare.

Nah, I think you're too pessimistic. She'll be at least an okay president.

And she will be more successful in her life than Reince Priebus ever will.

We can agree on that: Preibus is an idiot, and Hillary is a formidable opponent.

[memphis]

Are there any Democrats who are good at politics? I haven't seen them. They all bumble around presuming that because the overwhelming majority of people would benefit from their policies that there is no reason to make the sale. Republicans, on the other hand, work miracles, getting people to vote for them time and time again even as they contemptuously filibuster non-controversial things like background checks for gun purchases and health care benefits for 9/11 first responders.

[Mehmentum]

If Hillary really is so bad at campaigning, Preibus should stop advertising it.

[pbrower2a]

Would any high-level Republican say anything good about a living Democratic politician?

[IceSpear]

Would any high-level Republican say anything good about a living Democratic politician?

The Republicans sure seemed to love Hillary when they were constantly talking her up as so much better than Obama. Look for this dynamic to begin to reverse once Hillary declares.

[AggregateDemand]

Hillary isn't a particularly deft political operator, but Priebus is just a troll trying to earn a paycheck.

[Mr. Smith]

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Pretty sure the liberal base would hate her more as they should, and the conservative base might admire her in Fox News Liberal sort of way...then again...considering even Colmes was too much.

Well I guess Reagan was a stopped clock too.

[badgate]

Pretty sure they opened up "Joe Biden.docx" and copy/pasted into "Hillary Clinton.docx"

[bedstuy]

She actually isn't. If she was a man, she would be eaten alive much more by both bases.

Yeah, that reverse sexism is tough, huh?

I don't understand this narrative that Hillary is a bad politician.  She lacks the retail politics skills of Bill, sure.  But, every politician lacks the retail politics skills of Bill.  However, Hillary is actually a really lovely person, kind, intelligent, personable.  When she's allowed to be herself, she really shines.  She's doesn't give the soaring Obama type speeches, but I would actually say that she's a far more effective communicator at the every day level than Obama.

So yeah, that's just Republican wishful thinking.  Here's a reality check, compare Hillary Clinton's general political talent to Romney, Marco Rubio or Scott Walker, that's the real question here.  Hillary Clinton would curb-stomp almost every plausible GOP candidate.

[AggregateDemand]

When she starts ranting, the sound of her voice is capable of reducing the mighty Redwood forests to piles of sawdust. Unfortunately for Democrats, Hillary's old-nag-meets-saw-mill tonal signature does not detract from her hollow rhetoric and faulty policy proposals.

People like her because she has an alpha personality, and we live in a culture where celebrity-worship is a form of self-actualization.

[Maxwell]

Hillary Clinton is a solid debater, but a meh-to-poor campaigner. I mean, we'll see, but against most of the GOP, I think she's a good bet. 2016 won't be the year for them to beat her.

[IceSpear]

When she starts ranting, the sound of her voice is capable of reducing the mighty Redwood forests to piles of sawdust. Unfortunately for Democrats, Hillary's old-nag-meets-saw-mill tonal signature does not detract from her hollow rhetoric and faulty policy proposals.

Are you sure you're not describing your own posts here?

[bedstuy]

A great example of how sexist electoral politics is right here in this thread. 

On one hand, women deal with baseless charges of benefiting from a double standard and people get furious whenever they bring up sexism or women's issues.

She actually isn't. If she was a man, she would be eaten alive much more by both bases.

Nobody ever says, if Scott Walker were a woman...  And, that it right there, women in politics have to answer these questions that almost they have to justify being a woman in politics.  And on the other hand,

When she starts ranting, the sound of her voice is capable of reducing the mighty Redwood forests to piles of sawdust. Unfortunately for Democrats, Hillary's old-nag-meets-saw-mill tonal signature does not detract from her hollow rhetoric and faulty policy proposals.

People like her because she has an alpha personality, and we live in a culture where celebrity-worship is a form of self-actualization.

People still say disgustingly sexist things like this.  So, women get criticized for benefiting from being a woman, criticized for bringing up sexism and they experience overt sexism.  It's like a quadruple standard.

[AggregateDemand]

Are you sure you're not describing your own posts here?

Well then, you should agree with the content in all of them, and send me campaign donations.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Are you sure you're not describing your own posts here?

Well then, you should agree with the content in all of them, and send me campaign donations.

Dude, you know it's against the rules to post while drunk?