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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: October 29, 2014, 08:41:26 AM »

1. Its not constructive to let our disagreement over the Israel/Palestine conflict spill over to other topics.

2 There are a number of problematic aspects with both Turkish society and the current Turkish government, so being critical of Turkey is a fully reasonable position.

2. Cyprus had a population distribution that was 80% Greek, 18% Turkish and 2% Armenian, when the Turks invaded, so the Cypriot government had every right to seek unification with Greece, it was a matter of national self determination.

Given the way the Greeks and Turks have been acting like dicks to each other ever since 1919 (and before), if the Turks hadn't invaded after the Greek coup, the Turkish population of Cyprus would likely have ended up being ethnically cleansed by now if it were a part of Greece.  [Not entirely, but if Cyprus was over 5% Turkish after 40 years of Greek rule, I'd be extremely surprised.]  Granted, all the invasion did was ensure that it wasn't just Turks who got ethnically cleansed, but to pretend that everything would be hunky-dory if it weren't for the awful Turks is to ignore reality.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 11:35:16 PM »

politicus, the whole ten years prior to 1974 gives little confidence that a Cyprus unified with Greece would not have seen wholesale ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots.  Granted, for the reasons you mentioned, the Greeks would not have been seeking ethnic genocide of the Turkish minority of Cyprus, but rather a few atrocities combined with other pressures sufficient to cause the Turks to leave the island for the mainland.  But just because it wouldn't have been a wholesale massacre doesn't mean that it wouldn't have been a cleansing.
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