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Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Wakie
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Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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When George Bush proposed cutting its entire budget, Rick Santorum went on national television in February and said he would not let that happen. But then, when it came to a vote, Rick Santorum broke his promise and voted against Amtrak funding.
As if breaking his promise on Amtrak funding wasn't enough, after the vote Rick Santorum wrote in the Philadelphia Inquirer that he actually supports Amtrak funding:
"At a time when Amtrak is setting ridership records and as congestion at our airports and on the highways continues to increase, it would be a grave mistake to cut the federal funds that keep Amtrak operating."
--Rick Santorum, Op-ed, Philadelphia Inquirer, March 25, 2005
Tricky Ricky does the old flip-flop.
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A18
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 13, 2005, 01:23:16 pm »
America's railroads need to be privatized. That's the real solution to all of this.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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And if this had been a Democrat, he would be praised for listening to his consituents.
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Wakie
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 13, 2005, 03:19:28 pm »
That isn't much of a defense.
Santorum says one thing and votes another way and THEN goes back to saying what he originally said(trusting that the electorate won't have time to pay attention to how he voted). At last year's Republican National Convention they made a big deal about flip-flops. Who knew they were talking about Santorum?
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 13, 2005, 04:44:58 pm »
He's just one vote out of a hundred.
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Wakie
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 13, 2005, 05:14:57 pm »
True ... but he shouldn't be lying about his position, should he?
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Wakie
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Senator NixonNow on April 14, 2005, 02:43:20 am
Quote from: Wakie on April 13, 2005, 03:19:28 pm
Santorum says one thing and votes another way and THEN goes back to saying what he originally said(trusting that the electorate won't have time to pay attention to how he voted).
[[insert democratic defense of Sen. Kerry here]]
[[insert republican attacks here]]
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MAS117
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 14, 2005, 03:52:52 pm »
Where's Keystone Phil on this one?
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Keystone Phil
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Senator MAS117 on April 14, 2005, 03:52:52 pm
Where's Keystone Phil on this one?
Where are you on anything? You never add to the discussion. I didn't find it to be a big deal so I didn't comment.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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April 14, 2005, 04:15:11 pm »
Hmmm....interesting. Although flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is hardly on a par with flip-flopping on the Iraq war, flip-flopping at all is never a good thing for a senator facing a tough re-election battle next year and a potential run for president in 2008. Santorum might not want to build up too many of these minor issue flip-flops.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Joe Republic on April 14, 2005, 04:15:11 pm
Hmmm....interesting. Although flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is hardly on a par with flip-flopping on the Iraq war, flip-flopping at all is never a good thing for a senator facing a tough re-election battle next year and a potential run for president in 2008. Santorum might not want to build up too many of these minor issue flip-flops.
Acctually, I would arguee that flip-flopping won Kerry re-election plenty of times. Look at his flip-flopping on whether he is Irish or not. It's a different story every other election.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Joe Republic on April 14, 2005, 04:15:11 pm
Hmmm....interesting. Although flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is hardly on a par with flip-flopping on the Iraq war, flip-flopping at all is never a good thing for a senator facing a tough re-election battle next year and a potential run for president in 2008. Santorum might not want to build up too many of these minor issue flip-flops.
While not on par with the War In Iraq, flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is quite a big deal in Southeastern PA (where people actually ride Amtrak). The urban Northeast corridor is the only place Amtrak makes money, but funding is still a big deal.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: danwxman on April 15, 2005, 02:11:37 pm
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 14, 2005, 04:15:11 pm
Hmmm....interesting. Although flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is hardly on a par with flip-flopping on the Iraq war, flip-flopping at all is never a good thing for a senator facing a tough re-election battle next year and a potential run for president in 2008. Santorum might not want to build up too many of these minor issue flip-flops.
While not on par with the War In Iraq, flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is quite a big deal in Southeastern PA (where people actually ride Amtrak). The urban Northeast corridor is the only place Amtrak makes money, but funding is still a big deal.
Santorum is kissing any chances in the Southeast goodbye. Even with Specter's backing, his chances are looking slimmer by the day.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Flyers2006 on April 15, 2005, 02:21:55 pm
Quote from: danwxman on April 15, 2005, 02:11:37 pm
Quote from: Joe Republic on April 14, 2005, 04:15:11 pm
Hmmm....interesting. Although flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is hardly on a par with flip-flopping on the Iraq war, flip-flopping at all is never a good thing for a senator facing a tough re-election battle next year and a potential run for president in 2008. Santorum might not want to build up too many of these minor issue flip-flops.
What is he kissing good-bye?? He can't kiss goobye something he never had in the 1st place. What he is doing however is just increasing turnout (which obviously hurts him)
While not on par with the War In Iraq, flip-flopping on Amtrak funding is quite a big deal in Southeastern PA (where people actually ride Amtrak). The urban Northeast corridor is the only place Amtrak makes money, but funding is still a big deal.
Santorum is kissing any chances in the Southeast goodbye. Even with Specter's backing, his chances are looking slimmer by the day.
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Keystone Phil
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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What is he kissing good-bye?? He can't kiss goobye something he never had in the 1st place.
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Actually, he did have it in the first place. He won the SE (except Philly) in 2000.
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Re: Santorum Flip-Flops on Amtrak
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on April 16, 2005, 10:53:46 am
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What is he kissing good-bye?? He can't kiss goobye something he never had in the 1st place.
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Actually, he did have it in the first place. He won the SE (except Philly) in 2000.
I thought he lost in Montco. Anyway I think we could all agree on is that Santorum (no matter what his position on Amtrak) will get crushed in SE PA in 06
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