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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2014, 06:33:04 PM »

Let's see, the economy is improving strongly, millions of people are signed up for health insurance, and we're largely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet supposedly all is horrible because of a couple of beheadings in the ME and one guy died of Ebola?

You have to take into account that the electorate that shows up on Tuesday will probably be one that voted for Mitt Romney in 2012. Particularly in the Senate races.
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« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2014, 06:39:14 PM »

Let's see, the economy is improving strongly, millions of people are signed up for health insurance, and we're largely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet supposedly all is horrible because of a couple of beheadings in the ME and one guy died of Ebola?
If you're curious on why the president's approval rating is where it is, it's because the economic recovery he promised and the economic recovery we got are two very different things, because ObamaCare isn't the 'perfect' law everyone wants it to be, because he and Reid have been nearly as bad as the Tea Party when it comes to compromise, and because the deficit reduction he promised and the deficit reduction we actually got are two very different things.
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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2014, 06:54:31 PM »
« Edited: October 29, 2014, 07:03:26 PM by New Canadaland »


he and Reid have been nearly as bad as the Tea Party when it comes to compromise

Just no. It's abhorrent that republicans can be awarded for obstruction but democrats still try to meet them in the middle without getting any sympathy. Even when they're on the other side of public opinion like on minimum wage or background checks.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2014, 07:00:10 PM »

At least you guys can take comfort in the fact that all of this will likely become a prelude to Clinton blaming most of the country's problems on the Republican Congress on her way to the White House

But will that work?  Think back to 2008.  Democrats recaptured the House and Senate in 2006 and had two years control of Congress when the 2008 election came, but Republicans still got whacked because there was a Republican in the White House during the down turn.  If people are still unhappy with the direction of the country in 2016 it stands to reason the Democratic candidate for president will feel the effect of it more than the GOP
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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 07:13:46 PM »

At least you guys can take comfort in the fact that all of this will likely become a prelude to Clinton blaming most of the country's problems on the Republican Congress on her way to the White House

But will that work?  Think back to 2008.  Democrats recaptured the House and Senate in 2006 and had two years control of Congress when the 2008 election came, but Republicans still got whacked because there was a Republican in the White House during the down turn.  If people are still unhappy with the direction of the country in 2016 it stands to reason the Democratic candidate for president will feel the effect of it more than the GOP

The Democratic brand in 2006/2008 was nowhere close to being as awful as the Republican one is today, even with the GOP nearing 7 Senate seats.

That said, the D's flubbed on recruiting in SD and MT, costing them 2 seats, and Udall and Braley are the worst, likely costing us 2 more, and the GOP has nominated fairly good candidates, particularly in CO. This was an election that could have been bad but not awful.

However, losing CO and IA now puts them both as prime pickup targets in 2020 with a (likely) friendlier electorate in a Presidential year. Ernst has plenty of time to show her true colors by then, and Gardner is going to have to toe a very moderate line if he plans on being re-elected.
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2014, 07:16:05 PM »

Let's see, the economy is improving strongly, millions of people are signed up for health insurance, and we're largely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet supposedly all is horrible because of a couple of beheadings in the ME and one guy died of Ebola?

When beet is telling people they're overreacting....
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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2014, 07:18:38 PM »

Let's see, the economy is improving strongly, millions of people are signed up for health insurance, and we're largely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet supposedly all is horrible because of a couple of beheadings in the ME and one guy died of Ebola?
If you're curious on why the president's approval rating is where it is, it's because the economic recovery he promised and the economic recovery we got are two very different things, because ObamaCare isn't the 'perfect' law everyone wants it to be, because he and Reid have been nearly as bad as the Tea Party when it comes to compromise, and because the deficit reduction he promised and the deficit reduction we actually got are two very different things.


Ah...ha.

Long story short, the President's approval is underwater because people don't "feel" the economic recovery. They blame him because people know people who are still struggling.
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2014, 07:25:18 PM »

Sadly nothing will be done to help people who are struggling. No realistic outcome from the midterms is going to alleviate gridlock.
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2014, 07:30:04 PM »

Democrats won't gain any seats. Even if Orman knocks Roberts out in Kansas, he's still more likely to caucus with the majority (that is Republicans), so it would be basically a hold.
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2014, 08:05:05 PM »

Democrats won't gain any seats. Even if Orman knocks Roberts out in Kansas, he's still more likely to caucus with the majority (that is Republicans), so it would be basically a hold.

Nunn isn't a favorite (mostly because of the runoff factor) but she certainly has a chance.
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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2014, 08:13:53 PM »

Let's see, the economy is improving strongly, millions of people are signed up for health insurance, and we're largely out of Iraq and Afghanistan, yet supposedly all is horrible because of a couple of beheadings in the ME and one guy died of Ebola?
If you're curious on why the president's approval rating is where it is, it's because the economic recovery he promised and the economic recovery we got are two very different things, because ObamaCare isn't the 'perfect' law everyone wants it to be, because he and Reid have been nearly as bad as the Tea Party when it comes to compromise, and because the deficit reduction he promised and the deficit reduction we actually got are two very different things.


Ah...ha.

Long story short, the President's approval is underwater because people don't "feel" the economic recovery. They blame him because people know people who are still struggling.


Sixth-year of a Presidency. I don't care who the President is. In modern times, the people grow tired and weary of him. His Senate class that propelled him to his original election loses seats.
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2014, 07:32:53 PM »

Pessimist Eraserhead is always right!
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