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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2014, 08:15:16 PM »

That's a lot of ungrateful people.
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2014, 10:02:59 PM »


They'll find some way to credit the Republicans for their new healthcare.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2014, 12:16:59 AM »

The recession caused retraction in the enrollment rate growth for Medicare Advantage, Medicare Part D, and other services. ACA cuts Medicare Advantage, but not until next year. The Bush administration would tell you that Part D functions like a market regardless of enrollment rates, but those claims are a bit dubious.
The series for Medicare Advantage alone isn't enough to disentagle the effects of ACA, since you can claim ACA mandated effects became embedded in the firms' future calculations. The raw data is indicative only for the 2008-2010 period, maybe, and during that period there was still steady growth in HMO enrolment.

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It's never easy to predict what any policy does for an entire country, especially one with 300 million people. When I made that point, it was about whether the ACA changes behaviour in people to become enrolled. Not surprisingly, they did. I focused on counties by state borders since there would be less economic variation between the two sides.

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The heterogeneity is well known, but as a reform supporter I will blame particular people for refusing federal aid for the Medicaid expansion. But there's something else in this paragraph, though; a belief, almost, that a heterogeneous policy is worse than no policy at all. This is something with which I disagree, especially given that the current act was already a compromise between Congress majorities with the Republican administration.

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Macro's a pretty lackluster field in general! Absent the need for projected costs, though, the evidence looks like Americans and health firms have adapted to the policy. Just because it's a byzantine law at times does not mean that the market comes to equilibrium eventually. And economists surely are running experiments on welfare gains of the ACA within certain demographic samples. Instead of scrambling the political economy of things, let the numbers and prices speak for themselves.
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2014, 02:22:33 AM »

The fact that conservative areas are often the ones that have the most to gain from government welfare never ceases to amaze me.
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2014, 02:26:27 AM »
« Edited: November 03, 2014, 09:16:55 AM by AggregateDemand »

The series for Medicare Advantage alone isn't enough to disentagle the effects of ACA, since you can claim ACA mandated effects became embedded in the firms' future calculations. The raw data is indicative only for the 2008-2010 period, maybe, and during that period there was still steady growth in HMO enrolment.

Why would HMO's be particularly relevant? The income effect of a recession pushes down spending, meaning less comprehensive coverage and higher deductibles and out-of-pocket limits. If consumers are incurring higher risk, they probably want the certainty of an HMO.

Perhaps disentanglement is problematic, but arguing that ACA is a primary cause for declining cost growth during the Great Recession is like arguing that blustery downdrafts are the reason Isaac Newton took an apple to the noggin.

It's never easy to predict what any policy does for an entire country, especially one with 300 million people. When I made that point, it was about whether the ACA changes behaviour in people to become enrolled. Not surprisingly, they did. I focused on counties by state borders since there would be less economic variation between the two sides.

I didn't argue that ACA doesn't affect behavior. When DC launches healthcare.gov and they tell the citizens that the individual mandate is going to exact its pound of flesh, Americans will rush to sign up, especially if DC tells them the government might give them subsidies. The individual mandate, which is largely unpopular and of questionable constitutional authority, and rising employment rates did most of the work. The "good" government policy (Medicaid expansion) contributed 1% to the decline, according to the data.

The heterogeneity is well known, but as a reform supporter I will blame particular people for refusing federal aid for the Medicaid expansion. But there's something else in this paragraph, though; a belief, almost, that a heterogeneous policy is worse than no policy at all. This is something with which I disagree, especially given that the current act was already a compromise between Congress majorities with the Republican administration.

Even Republican take free money. The government will only help the citizens, as long as the state of residency is willing to help the government hide the true cost of the program from the CBO. In this case, ACA expansion pays 90% of the cost, which is much better than regular Medicaid, but still problematic for many states. Makes you wonder why DC would jeopardize expansion over such a paltry sum. It looks like they really wanted to watch people genuflect at the altar of ACA, and in McConnell's case, it worked like a charm, but as Senate Minority Leader, he probably got every waiver on his list.

In Texas, Medicaid expansion would allegedly cost over $1B per year, which would require 5% bump in general fund revenues. It's not cheap. Texas is supposedly seeking a waiver to only expand for children. I also heard other scuttlebutt that Texas will expand Medicaid only if they get a waiver to put all Medicaid block-grant funds into an exchange, to which the Federal government allegedly replied, only if the exchange is a state-run exchange according to the ACA regs.

Some states are more willing to let the federal government run their show, and some states get preferential treatment from DC. It's just a game. No one cares about the citizens. Everyone cares about who gets to control them.
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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2014, 12:12:26 AM »

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/03/upshot/map-if-medicaid-expansion-were-not-optional.html

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2014, 12:56:03 AM »
« Edited: November 04, 2014, 01:03:44 AM by New Canadaland »

This would be cause for a democratic wave in state houses and governorships if Obama didn't fumble the ball on messaging. Or republicans could actually do something which helps Americans and is really low on the shelf in terms of effort.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2014, 02:40:06 PM »


They'll find some way to credit the Republicans for their new healthcare.
More likely, they will blame the Democrats when they have a deductible or when their claim for something gets denied. Appalachian people are just determined to be dissatisfied. It's a cultural thing that's hard to explain.
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