Why do so many here greatly overestimate the power of DNC Chairman?
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« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2017, 12:07:03 AM »

I'm confused as to how the 2016 election involved Democrats "screwing over the base" or whatever as a premise.
Bernie people think they're the base. They are woefully misinformed.

African-Americans and women are the major base of the party, because they vote for Democrats most consistently. And they voted for Hillary overwhelmingly.

White working class people haven't been the "base" of the party since Reagan if not Nixon. For over a generation it's been African-Americans, Latinos, Jewish people, women and big-city whites. Bernie only did extremely well with one of those demos - and Hillary may have won big-city whites going by her overwhelming victories in NYC, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Los Angeles.


... You're from York or Cumberland county, aren't you?

He's right, though.

Nah, you just agree with him.
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« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2017, 12:21:42 AM »

I'm confused as to how the 2016 election involved Democrats "screwing over the base" or whatever as a premise.
Bernie people think they're the base. They are woefully misinformed.

African-Americans and women are the major base of the party, because they vote for Democrats most consistently. And they voted for Hillary overwhelmingly.

White working class people haven't been the "base" of the party since Reagan if not Nixon. For over a generation it's been African-Americans, Latinos, Jewish people, women and big-city whites. Bernie only did extremely well with one of those demos - and Hillary may have won big-city whites going by her overwhelming victories in NYC, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Los Angeles.


... You're from York or Cumberland county, aren't you?

He's right, though.

Nah, you just agree with him.

Roll Eyes

You just disagree with him because you can't comprehend not being in the majority.
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« Reply #77 on: February 28, 2017, 06:53:41 AM »

I'm sorry, but anyone who ignores working people and claims that they aren't a part of the Democratic coalition is not a liberal and certainly isn't a progressive. Looking forward to the slow death of corporatism.

When did Tom Perez ever do that.
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« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2017, 02:27:22 PM »

I'm sorry, but anyone who ignores working people and claims that they aren't a part of the Democratic coalition is not a liberal and certainly isn't a progressive. Looking forward to the slow death of corporatism.

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First of all, WWC =/= Working class. I find it tends to refer to a midwestern union worker from an industrial town, which isn't close to even a majority of white people in lower economic status, let alone the working class in general. Clinton won the poor overall, but got crushed among poor whites.

Secondly, who you identify as part of the democratic correlation doesn't decide ones politics, and it says something about yours that pointing out that the base of the democratic party isn't the white working class gets you actively angry(and you describe saying that white members of the working class aren't the democratic base and then listing minorities and big city whites, of which a significant chunk of both are working class, as ignoring the working class in general.)
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« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2017, 04:26:40 PM »

Guys it's over for the Democrats. I mean, they have no chance now, Perez is polling really low, and look at how great Corbyn is doing across the Atlantic. Huge double digit leads over the Tories.

Dems will lose everything now and get cucked and die Sad
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« Reply #80 on: March 01, 2017, 11:16:53 PM »

I'm sorry, but anyone who ignores working people and claims that they aren't a part of the Democratic coalition is not a liberal and certainly isn't a progressive. Looking forward to the slow death of corporatism.

Roll Eyes

First of all, WWC =/= Working class. I find it tends to refer to a midwestern union worker from an industrial town, which isn't close to even a majority of white people in lower economic status, let alone the working class in general. Clinton won the poor overall, but got crushed among poor whites.

Secondly, who you identify as part of the democratic correlation doesn't decide ones politics, and it says something about yours that pointing out that the base of the democratic party isn't the white working class gets you actively angry(and you describe saying that white members of the working class aren't the democratic base and then listing minorities and big city whites, of which a significant chunk of both are working class, as ignoring the working class in general.)

In short, "f**k the poor if they're white".
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