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« on: April 12, 2004, 01:47:14 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2004, 01:47:47 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2004, 01:48:49 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2004, 01:55:13 pm »
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How do you indent like that?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2004, 01:57:24 pm »
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"It is the essence of a true democracy that people should be respected individually, not simply collectively. It is also of the essence of a democracy that differences and distinctions are recognised and, where relevant, honoured. A democracy should be above all a thoughtful type of society, in these and other respects."

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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2004, 02:00:08 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2004, 02:00:09 pm »
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No.  We need to send military aid to countries like Israel.  Foreign aid can also be a useful tool in negotiations with other countries (it helped get the accord between Israel and Egypt).
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2004, 02:01:06 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2004, 02:01:48 pm »
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Yes.

Just say no to publicly financed imperialism!
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2004, 03:00:40 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2004, 03:01:46 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2004, 03:02:56 pm »
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It looks like this was one of my 'conservative' answers.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2004, 03:05:15 pm »
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NO. We have a duty to poorer countries.

Besides, foreign aid means less poverty in third world countries, meaning less breeding grounds for terrorism.
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« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2004, 03:05:18 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2004, 03:06:22 pm »
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NO. We have a duty to poorer countries.

Spoken like a true imperialist.  Let's hope that's not the mainstream view.
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2004, 03:08:20 pm »
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NO. We have a duty to poorer countries.

Spoken like a true imperialist.  Let's hope that's not the mainstream view.

Why's that imperialistic? I'm suggesting we help out poorer countries and ensure their citizens can enjoy a decent standard of living. I'm not saying we should invade them or enforce our beliefs on them...

But then I'm one of those 'one human race'-people, so if anything's it's more idealistic than imperialistic.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2004, 03:11:20 pm »
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My stance is, with a 500B defecit and a 7T national debt, we can't be bothering with aid to other countries.  america first.
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My stance is, with a 500B defecit and a 7T national debt, we can't be bothering with aid to other countries.  america first.


the U.S. should come first
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2004, 03:13:25 pm »
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My stance is, with a 500B defecit and a 7T national debt, we can't be bothering with aid to other countries.  america first.


the U.S. should come first

thhat's what I said.  america first.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2004, 03:13:58 pm »
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Foreign aid is a good way of controlling lesser countries.  It is one of our 'carrots', which we need as much as the sticks.  Lets keep it.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2004, 03:16:18 pm »
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My stance is, with a 500B defecit and a 7T national debt, we can't be bothering with aid to other countries.  america first.


thats a very good point we can't afford it
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2004, 03:17:34 pm »
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NO. We have a duty to poorer countries.

Spoken like a true imperialist.  Let's hope that's not the mainstream view.

Why's that imperialistic? I'm suggesting we help out poorer countries and ensure their citizens can enjoy a decent standard of living. I'm not saying we should invade them or enforce our beliefs on them...

But then I'm one of those 'one human race'-people, so if anything's it's more idealistic than imperialistic.

The bolsheviks and nazis were very idealistic.  But idealism and imperialism are not mutually orthogonal concepts, by any means.  Invasion doesn't have to involve armies, it can involve technology, food, people, ideas, etc.  At least you choose the adjective 'poorer' rather than lesser'  I'll give you credit for being less ethnocentric than opebo.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2004, 03:24:02 pm »
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NO. We have a duty to poorer countries.

Spoken like a true imperialist.  Let's hope that's not the mainstream view.

Why's that imperialistic? I'm suggesting we help out poorer countries and ensure their citizens can enjoy a decent standard of living. I'm not saying we should invade them or enforce our beliefs on them...

But then I'm one of those 'one human race'-people, so if anything's it's more idealistic than imperialistic.

The bolsheviks and nazis were very idealistic.  But idealism and imperialism are not mutually orthogonal concepts, by any means.  Invasion doesn't have to involve armies, it can involve technology, food, people, ideas, etc.  At least you choose the adjective 'poorer' rather than lesser'  I'll give you credit for being less ethnocentric than opebo.

I'm not entirely sure what you're implying with the first sentence, but I personally find the wealth gap which exists between the West and the third world to be almost perverse. (In that view, I actually find that Marx's model of the superstructure is not defunct, not by a long shot. It's simply the case that it applies no longer to individual countries or societies, but the entire world.) Besides, it cannot be a coincidence that aforementioned wealth gap is wider than ever and we are also witnessing the rise of religious extremism and groups like al-Qaeda. Redressing this imbalance, or at least aiming to redress it, would go a long to way to solve many of the world's problems, at least in my view.

If anything, it's imperialists who want to keep poorer countries poor, since it provides them with a cheap labour force and governments willing to do their bidding at the tune of the almighty dollar (or euro, or pound).
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