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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2014, 02:12:42 AM »

So many people on this site are so far removed from the American voters. What happens now? Better rights for women and blacks thanks to West Virginia and South Carolina's progressive voting tonight.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2014, 02:13:35 AM »

So many people on this site are so far removed from the American voters. What happens now? Better rights for women and blacks thanks to West Virginia and South Carolina's progressive voting tonight.
Lol.

Look for all sorts of vile women and black hating rhetoric to rise across the land.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2014, 02:14:34 AM »

So many people on this site are so far removed from the American voters. What happens now? Better rights for women and blacks thanks to West Virginia and South Carolina's progressive voting tonight.

What are you talking about?
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 02:23:05 AM »

West Virginia elected a female to the senate and that's more than Rhode Island can say. South Carolina elected a black man to the senate and that's more than Illinois can say. States like Rhode Island and Illinois seem to be favoring white men, but this country is made up of so much more. So much for the liberal myths of racism and sexism in the south. Nanananananah!
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2014, 06:45:54 AM »

Attempted impeachment, attempts to remove Obamacare, etc. Perhaps another government shutdown, they're always fun.
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 08:06:06 AM »

Let me reassure everyone:

Replicator is not mine.
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2014, 08:12:39 AM »

Ken Buck!
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2014, 08:17:04 AM »

I'm not sure, but I will say that the absolute guaranteed cakewalk victory for Hillary is far much less of a certainty after last night, which was pretty much a condemnation of "New Democrat" politics.

This should be as much of a condemnation of the pro-Wall Street politics of the party establishment as 1894 was.
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2014, 08:37:02 AM »

I'm not sure, but I will say that the absolute guaranteed cakewalk victory for Hillary is far much less of a certainty after last night, which was pretty much a condemnation of "New Democrat" politics.

This should be as much of a condemnation of the pro-Wall Street politics of the party establishment as 1894 was.
There is no indication that the democratic establishment wants change. The midterm electorate wants to vote for an even more pro-Wall Street party and the democratic primary electorate is no threat to the establishment. If they need to be thrown out for progressives to make a come-back, we might as well dissolve the party.
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2014, 08:44:26 AM »

The key question is: how many judges will Obama manage to ram through the Senate during the lame-duck session?
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2014, 08:51:16 AM »

I'm not sure, but I will say that the absolute guaranteed cakewalk victory for Hillary is far much less of a certainty after last night, which was pretty much a condemnation of "New Democrat" politics.

This should be as much of a condemnation of the pro-Wall Street politics of the party establishment as 1894 was.

What are you talking about? ACA is Great Society all over again. Taxes and regulatory burden for people who work. Subsidies and anti-employment for the jobless. Tired old min wage wars are also Great Society.

Obama wanted to move the country to the left of the Great Society, but he crashed and burned in LBJ's boneyard because that's the platform to which old-white-racist-leftists (Reid/Pelosi) subscribe. Poor Democrats don't get to be independent and employed. They get handouts and declining labor force participation.
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2014, 09:00:13 AM »

Nothing much. It's not like anything of worth was going to happen due to the disaster that is the House anyway. The only significant difference in policy terms is that Obama will have to give himself carpal tunnel via use of the veto pen just to prevent the US turning into Thunderdome.

I'm not sure, but I will say that the absolute guaranteed cakewalk victory for Hillary is far much less of a certainty after last night, which was pretty much a condemnation of "New Democrat" politics.

This should be as much of a condemnation of the pro-Wall Street politics of the party establishment as 1894 was.

yea the Socialist landslide is definitely a sign that americans think obama has gone too far to the right
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2014, 10:09:35 AM »

I hope Nathan didn't stroke out last night......damn.  Easy does it today, Nathan.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2014, 10:39:54 AM »

I hope Nathan didn't stroke out last night......damn.  Easy does it today, Nathan.

I'm fine now. Thanks for your concern.
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2014, 10:44:52 AM »

If I were Obama I'd spend all my time overseas on state visits and going to summits and whatnot.
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2014, 11:25:30 AM »

What happens now?  Well, between now and end of year:

Nov '14:  Obama plays another 5 rounds of golf.

Nov-Dec '14: Obama announces, between the front and back nines, that his administration will not get further involved in Iraq to attempt to stop ISIS and ISIS rolls to new victories.

Dec '14:  Obama plays another 6 rounds of golf.

Dec '14: LA Senate run-off goes to GOP, cementing 9 Senate pickups.

Dec '14: ~50 dead in new round of Ferguson riots following no indictment of police officer.  Public opinion polls show 70% of US public sides with officer.

Christmas Weekend '14:  Obama, believing he is more important than Congress, declares amnesty and all hell breaks loose (new wave of illegals storm boarder, gun sales begin to hit new records, impeachment begins).

Jan '15:  Iraq falls to ISIS.

Jan '15:  Obama plays another 10 rounds of golf.

Jan '15:  Hillary signs up for food stamps, claiming she shares the pain of the poor.

Feb '15: Obama's approval sinks to around 33%.  Biden is very giddy and flashes his cheesy smile.  Dems start to opening talk about Obama resigning, but stop short of calling for his resignation out of fear that Biden would be worse. 

Feb '15: Obama, sighting the racial stress of being the first black US president, plays another 12 rounds of golf.
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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2014, 11:30:17 AM »

lol obozo sure lovs golf!!!!!!!!!


Anyway, how long before the filibuster is immediately dumped, and both sides of the aisle show off their hypocrisy?
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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2014, 11:31:24 AM »

What happens now?  Well, between now and end of year:

Nov '14:  Obama plays another 5 rounds of golf.

Nov-Dec '14: Obama announces, between the front and back nines, that his administration will not get further involved in Iraq to attempt to stop ISIS and ISIS rolls to new victories.

Dec '14:  Obama plays another 6 rounds of golf.

Dec '14: LA Senate run-off goes to GOP, cementing 9 Senate pickups.

Dec '14: ~50 dead in new round of Ferguson riots following no indictment of police officer.  Public opinion polls show 70% of US public sides with officer.

Christmas Weekend '14:  Obama, believing he is more important than Congress, declares amnesty and all hell breaks loose (new wave of illegals storm boarder, gun sales begin to hit new records, impeachment begins).

Jan '15:  Iraq falls to ISIS.

Jan '15:  Obama plays another 10 rounds of golf.

Jan '15:  Hillary signs up for food stamps, claiming she shares the pain of the poor.

Feb '15: Obama's approval sinks to around 33%.  Biden is very giddy and flashes his cheesy smile.  Dems start to opening talk about Obama resigning, but stop short of calling for his resignation out of fear that Biden would be worse. 

Feb '15: Obama, sighting the racial stress of being the first black US president, plays another 12 rounds of golf.

I hope you didn't spend too long on this.
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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2014, 11:34:42 AM »

The Republicans will overreach again and pay the price in 2 years, simple.
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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2014, 11:40:18 AM »

The Republicans will overreach again and pay the price in 2 years, simple.

Of course unless the democrats actually bother to do something, nothing will change in the long run.
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« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2014, 11:40:20 AM »

The Republicans will overreach again and pay the price in 2 years, simple.

And I for one can't wait for that day 2 years from now.
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« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2014, 12:50:35 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 12:53:51 PM by Mechaman »

Nothing much. It's not like anything of worth was going to happen due to the disaster that is the House anyway. The only significant difference in policy terms is that Obama will have to give himself carpal tunnel via use of the veto pen just to prevent the US turning into Thunderdome.

I'm not sure, but I will say that the absolute guaranteed cakewalk victory for Hillary is far much less of a certainty after last night, which was pretty much a condemnation of "New Democrat" politics.

This should be as much of a condemnation of the pro-Wall Street politics of the party establishment as 1894 was.

yea the Socialist landslide is definitely a sign that americans think obama has gone too far to the right

Obviously I am referring to the people who did not show up, not the people who did.

If you offer the same shit as the other party rewrapped in a pretty package the consumer will eventually realize that it is horseshit.  Twenty some odd years of pursuing the most moderate hero course and what has it gotten the Democrats?

Jack.  Freaking.  Shit.

It's time the party stop acting like it's 1980
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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2014, 02:08:00 PM »

Obviously I am referring to the people who did not show up, not the people who did.

If you offer the same shit as the other party rewrapped in a pretty package the consumer will eventually realize that it is horseshit.  Twenty some odd years of pursuing the most moderate hero course and what has it gotten the Democrats?

Jack.  Freaking.  Shit.

It's time the party stop acting like it's 1980

The Republican Party will move away from 1980, when Democrats finally move away from the 1930s and 1960s.

The Democratic Party embraces a platform of clinging to 1960s entitlement programs designed to make segregationist Democrats marketable amongst minorities in the South. The Great Society is a disgraceful Machiavellian political strategy, and the country will never progress until Dems drop it for good, rather than doubling down as this president has done (perhaps inadvertently).

Obama put his faith in Reid and Pelosi, two of the oldest LBJ Democrats in Washington DC. What did he think was going to happen? Reid and Pelosi are geriatrics who pay minorities not to participate in the American experience. This outcome was inevitable, and we've thrown away six years and $7T to find out that these Democratic clowns have nothing to offer.

Democratic voters have finally realized that ACA means you lose your full-time job and you still don't have healthcare because Democrats are never going to abandon Medicaid/Medicare, which is hilarious because those programs are now so full of pork that most of the recipients are solidly middle-class Republicans.

I'd like to think this election will move Dems into the 21st century, but I think we all know they are waiting on demographic changes to make race-baiting sexy again.
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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2014, 03:06:56 PM »

Nothing. Obama can use the power of an executive order, but I think it would be best for the Democrats long term interests to just wait out the next two years until President Clinton and the Democratic Senate (I know I have been a dick tonight, but I know that the Republican Majority doesn't survive 2016...) can finish off the job.

I'd advise Obama to give up on immigration reform and just keep stalling GOP attempts to repeal Obamacare. At the end of the day, his legacy will be healthcare and he should fight hard to keep that victory instead of bowing to moderate heroism.

But if he does let them repeal Obamacare, Democrats can run for the next 2-4 (or more) election cycles pointing to every flaw in the health care system and claim "that only exists because the Republicans repealed Obamacare!" (But why would they do that? It's a Republican, pro-corporate plan. Get rid of Obamacare and you're giving the chances of a real national health care system a huge boost!)
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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2014, 03:28:18 PM »

Nothing. Obama can use the power of an executive order, but I think it would be best for the Democrats long term interests to just wait out the next two years until President Clinton and the Democratic Senate (I know I have been a dick tonight, but I know that the Republican Majority doesn't survive 2016...) can finish off the job.

I'd advise Obama to give up on immigration reform and just keep stalling GOP attempts to repeal Obamacare. At the end of the day, his legacy will be healthcare and he should fight hard to keep that victory instead of bowing to moderate heroism.

But if he does let them repeal Obamacare, Democrats can run for the next 2-4 (or more) election cycles pointing to every flaw in the health care system and claim "that only exists because the Republicans repealed Obamacare!" (But why would they do that? It's a Republican, pro-corporate plan. Get rid of Obamacare and you're giving the chances of a real national health care system a huge boost!)
Why not ask Obama to resign if your willing to destroy his one sole domestic policy victory? Asking Obama to sign a bill to repeal Obamacare is like asking him to cut off his hands.
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