2014 Post-Mortem: How did the Democrats screw this up so badly?
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« on: November 05, 2014, 12:02:37 AM »

And what did the Republicans do right?

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2014, 12:44:23 AM »

Democrats ran all around spineless, coreless, robotic campaigns with absolutely nothing to rally around.

Also elderly white people hate us now more than ever, and the people who do support us didn't even realize there was an election today.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2014, 01:04:50 AM »

The GOP autopsy appears to have worked. I think the Tea Party stranglehold in the GOP caucus might be broken.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 01:06:19 AM »

Democrats aren't aggressive enough defending their ideas and policies. That beating was well-deserved and will hopefully repeat until they learn and heads roll.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 01:15:12 AM »

Think of how out of it and apathetic I was this election. Obviously I still voted, but how many Democrats didn't?

The truth is, there was nothing to fight for. It wasn't about fighting the war in Iraq or Bush (2006), to get us the White House and a President who'd be with the middle class in the tough economy and who was going to end the war (2008) or preserving what he had done (2012). There wasn't even much of a "fight the Tea Party!" mindset ala 2010. It was just a bland boring election. The Republicans had reason to care, we didn't.

Luckily Hillary Clinton is the type of candidate who will get people out and motivated.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 01:15:23 AM »

Republicans coordinated beautifully with the GOP front groups and stayed true to the idea that only the wealthiest 1% of  Americans matter any more.

Democracy in America may have died last night.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 01:28:14 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 02:21:08 AM by angryGreatness »

People who should crawl in a hole and never show their faces again:


-Bruce Braley
-John Walsh
-Mark Udall
-Domenic Recchia
-Martha Coakley
-Every member of the FL Democratic party not named Gwen Graham or Patrick Murphy
-Dan Maffei
-Eliot Cutler

A lot of Democrats lost tonight, and a lot of them should definitely feel free to try again next election because they tried their best under awful circumstances, but the guys above lost races entirely due to their own f**ck-ups, or worse dragged down other candidates in separate races.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 02:02:16 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 10:29:34 AM by AggregateDemand »

Republicans didn't do much right, except the governors' association hit a home run.

Democrats did the same thing they always do. Write bad legislation. Pretend it has no flaws. Dig in their donkey hooves, refuse to work, and then get sent to the glue factory.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 02:17:17 AM »

Well Republicans won because they were in touch with the American voters and Democrats lost because they were out of touch with American voters. We don't want free hand outs or to be dependent on anyone.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 04:37:33 AM »

We don't want free hand outs or to be dependent on anyone.

Yeah, individuals are by nature completely independent, aren't they?  They can breathe without the air, walk without the ground, swim without water, be born without parents and be important without others.  If you really don't want free handouts, then start by telling your God to take everything back.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 04:40:43 AM »

This is what Democrats did wrong and Republicans did right.

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 04:42:34 AM »

37% over 60? Wow maybe the polls were telling us something.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 05:51:48 AM »

What's wrong is that we have two different electorates that are increasingly different from each other and the way our system is set up means that we have wild, embarrassing swings from pathetic ~40% turnout rates. The end result is a wildly unstable and schizophrenic government that doesn't represent the broader population, exacerbated by other issues such as voting rights restrictions, gerrymandering, the nature of the Senate, etc.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 07:10:03 AM »

This is what Democrats did wrong and Republicans did right.



Goddamit, young people.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 07:13:31 AM »

What's wrong is that we have two different electorates that are increasingly different from each other and the way our system is set up means that we have wild, embarrassing swings from pathetic ~40% turnout rates. The end result is a wildly unstable and schizophrenic government that doesn't represent the broader population, exacerbated by other issues such as voting rights restrictions, gerrymandering, the nature of the Senate, etc.

Yes this is correct.

Obviously (BREAKING NEWS alert) the problem is that both a President elected two years ago and a Congress elected now by wildly different electorates can both claim a mandate and it's not clear what the f!ck is supposed to happen.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 07:18:05 AM »

Two words: Barack Obama. You've got that many Democratic incumbents in Southern states that are angry at a Black Democratic President combined with the usual election-season hysteria over Ebola, health care, etc. That's why we lost so badly in 2010.
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 08:13:26 AM »

Barack Ebola.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 09:10:23 AM »

What's wrong is that we have two different electorates that are increasingly different from each other and the way our system is set up means that we have wild, embarrassing swings from pathetic ~40% turnout rates. The end result is a wildly unstable and schizophrenic government that doesn't represent the broader population, exacerbated by other issues such as voting rights restrictions, gerrymandering, the nature of the Senate, etc.
This.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 09:19:22 AM »


I suppose I"m to blame. Apparently, my voter registration was incomplete.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2014, 09:32:18 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 09:34:29 AM by King »

Nothing really happened. If you want a story, I would say is that it is becoming clear electorate groups are becoming so partisan than campaigns may no longer matter. Anyone could have predicted this six months ago.

Romney had a strong October in 2012 but it didn't get him anywhere close to winning.

Nunn, Hagan, Grimes, etc. couldn't convince anyone to vote for them, even with opponent gaffes.

Add in that the media has turned from an educational voice to a Twitter-reading/pulse-gauging regurgitate and we're basically entering a situation where the outcome is decided and unmovable. The election is a formality.

Regardless of how empowered conservatives feel today I can say with 100% confidence that Hillary Clinton is going to win 2016 soundly and Republicans are going to win in 2018 soundly.
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2014, 09:53:04 AM »


Lol, have fun with the red avatars, krazen.  It's been a long time since the blues here have had their way with them.
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2014, 09:54:44 AM »


Lol, have fun with the red avatars, krazen.  It's been a long time since the blues here have had their way with them.

2004 was fun times.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2014, 10:44:49 AM »

This is what Democrats did wrong and Republicans did right.



This. This was a boring election. The Democrats had no rallying cause (like in 2006 and 2008) or charismatic and inspiring leader (like in 2008 and 2012.) The election was uninteresting and Democrats, especially young ones had nothing to fight for. They didn't show up. The Republicans only cause was really blind Obama hatred, but for them that's enough.

The not all that well attended DFL party I was at last night is kind of a microcosm of that, in addition to being far less attended than anyone I've ever been to (including 2010), it was also much less disproportionately young.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2014, 10:52:26 AM »

The GOP autopsy appears to have worked. I think the Tea Party stranglehold in the GOP caucus might be broken.

Please tell me this is so. Despite my sympathy for the tea party, they're looney when it comes to displaying their message. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, if people perceive you as crazy, then for all intent and purposes, you're crazy.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2014, 10:54:50 AM »

The GOP autopsy appears to have worked. I think the Tea Party stranglehold in the GOP caucus might be broken.

"I'll believe it when I see it."
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