White Southern Democrats are dead

[Sol]

Outside of the obvious places.

Any future D gains in the south will be because of minority population increases. Look forward to whites in WV and KY voting like whites in AL and MS.

[IceSpear]

Yup. Damn it guys, it should've been Hillary in '08 and Obama in '16.

[NewYorkExpress]

Yup. Damn it guys, it should've been Hillary in '08 and Obama in '16.

White Southerners are sexist, remember? Hillary ain't winning their votes either.

[Lief 🗽]

Yeah, Grimes and Pryor basically did as well as Obama did in 2012. What a nightmare. Not sure Democrats can win back the Senate or House if we can't win those Southern white seats.

[Sol]

Yeah, Grimes and Pryor basically did as well as Obama did in 2012. What a nightmare. Not sure Democrats can win back the Senate or House if we can't win those Southern white seats.

Honestly, I suspect 2016 will be the Democrat's 2008.

Anyway, Democrats have to supercharge minority turnout 100% of the time. They won't win the conventional south, but it could help them elsewhere.

[KCDem]

Democrats did retain control of the Kentucky house though...

[IceSpear]

Democrats did retain control of the Kentucky house though...

Just delaying the inevitable at this point. The one bright side of that is ol' Randy will have to give up his Senate seat now.

[Storebought]

It's the goal of the GOP to have whites nationwide voting like whites in AL and MS -- with the consequence that the US as a whole has standard of living metrics equal to AL and MS.

[Beezer]

When was the last time there was no white Democrat from the Deep South in the House? During Reconstruction?

[Devils30]

Hagan should run against Burr in 2016.

[Boston Bread]

Hopefully MS becomes black-majority in a few decades and give African-Americans their own turn at the wheel for once.

[Vosem]

When was the last time there was no white Democrat from the Deep South in the House? During Reconstruction?

Never, and it won't be that way now. David Price and Jim Cooper are both Deep South white Democrats (although they sit in safe seats). Gwen Graham knocked off an incumbent in a Romney-voting North Florida seat -- North Florida is basically the Deep South. They will be an even more marginal presence than in the last Congress, but they exist. (If you discount safe seats, Graham will be totally alone -- but she'll still be there. Unless Edwards/Mayo/Landrieu win).

[Beezer]

When was the last time there was no white Democrat from the Deep South in the House? During Reconstruction?

Never, and it won't be that way now. David Price and Jim Cooper are both Deep South white Democrats (although they sit in safe seats). Gwen Graham knocked off an incumbent in a Romney-voting North Florida seat -- North Florida is basically the Deep South. They will be an even more marginal presence than in the last Congress, but they exist. (If you discount safe seats, Graham will be totally alone -- but she'll still be there. Unless Edwards/Mayo/Landrieu win).

Well, I was using the "official" definition of the Deep South (AL, GA, LA, MS, SC). John Barrow was the last white Democrat from those five states.

[Ljube]

Hagan should run against Burr in 2016.

Hagan was the worst of the Dem loser bunch. No, she should not run again.

[Devils30]

What Graham did tonight was amazing in light of how poorly southern Dems looked. Perfect 2018 candidate for Governor.

[Devils30]

I wouldnt assume Burr is untouchable, Hagan would have won with presidential turnout fairly easily.

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What Graham did tonight was amazing in light of how poorly southern Dems looked. Perfect 2018 candidate for Governor.

Daughter of Bob Graham? Interesting. Gore really made a mistake in 2000 by not choosing Bob Graham.

What's interesting is that Bob Graham had a reputation as a mild-mannered moderate chair of the Seante intelligence committee, but then when the Iraq war came around, he was pretty pissed about the whole thing.

[BaconBacon96]

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

[Third Party]

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

[IceSpear]

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

Except even Democrats who run on the New Deal lose.

[Beezer]

Losing the South was to be expected and it won't be won back any time soon. FFS, even somebody like Barrow who ran as a Republican in everything but name was trounced. The two parties are ideologically cohesive, the electorate is sorted and I can't see any sort of impetus coming from anywhere to change that dynamic in the foreseeable future.

[King]

If you want a silver lining, no subgroup in the exit polls really changed. People over 60 simply turned out more than anyone else.

Democrats are basically having to wait out the angel of death in these midterms

[Bigby]

Well, bye bye Southern Democrats. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[AmericanNation]

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

Except even Democrats who run on the New Deal lose.

...Lose the Radical social policy and the largely failed and dated economic policy.  I would like the democrats to be a reasonable alternative to the GOP at some point in my life.   

[Boston Bread]

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?