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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2014, 09:23:04 AM »

They're not in my opinion. You'll see southern Democrats rise up if the Republican there is not a good candidate. Barrow, Beebe, Nunn will rise back to the occasion in the future.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2014, 09:38:46 AM »

They're no more dead than they were two years ago (read that whichever way you like).
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2014, 10:00:10 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 10:02:09 AM by AmericanNation »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.    

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.    
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.  
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."    
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.    
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems?  
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 10:02:04 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2014, 10:03:02 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 10:05:06 AM by useful idiot »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?

It isn't that one thing is especially unpopular. Marijuana legalization is popular at the national level at this point, but if you based the majority of your campaigns, energy, and effort towards pot issues you'd probably not do particularly well nationally.

The Democrats' raison d'etre is the promotion of sexual diversity, to the marginalization of issues that effect a wider swathe of the public. The Democrats should be winning every cycle by enormous margins given the fact that most people agree with them on important issues.

How many Democratic candidates made raising the minimum wage the lynchpin of their campaign? Half the country LIKES Obamacare and 25% of the people opposing it thought it didn't go far enough. How many Democratic candidates in swing states actually ran on it, or even suggested we use it as a starting point towards single payer? The great majority of the country wants immigration reform, but the Dems shrank away from it. If the Democrats cared about young voters (who didn't show up at all yesterday) or single voters they would seriously be proposing some kind of national student debt forgiveness. They play games with the numbers to make it seem like the economic equity and the structural foundations of the economy aren't in horrific shape in our country, and think that people will be satisfied with promises of free birth-control and abortions.

The funny thing is that the Democrats don't have to have nights like last night. They already have the voters out there, they just need to get them to the polls. If they actually spoke to issues people cared about and ran on the obvious solutions to those problems instead of half-assed cop-outs and excuses, they wouldn't have to worry about turnout either.
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 10:04:03 AM »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.   

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.   
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.   
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."     
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.   
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems? 

Huh
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2014, 10:04:16 AM »

Yes, Democrats are pro-sex party and olds who vote in midterms don't find the sex to be all that pleasant.
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2014, 10:10:39 AM »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?

It isn't that one thing is especially unpopular. Marijuana legalization is popular at the national level at this point, but if you based the majority of your campaigns, energy, and effort towards pot issues you'd probably not do particularly well nationally.

The Democrats' raison d'etre is the promotion of sexual diversity, elevation of sex to the center of public life, and the personal destruction of those who hold differing opinions on these issues. This has been largely to the marginalization of issues that effect a wider swathe of the public. The Democrats should be winning every cycle by enormous margins given the fact that most people agree with them on important issues.

How many Democratic candidates made raising the minimum wage the lynchpin of their campaign? Half the country LIKES Obamacare and 25% of the people opposing it thought it didn't go far enough. How many Democratic candidates in swing states actually ran on it, or even suggested we use it as a starting point towards single payer? The great majority of the country wants immigration reform, but the Dems shrank away from it. If the Democrats cared about young voters (who didn't show up at all yesterday) or single voters they would seriously be proposing some kind of national student debt forgiveness. They play games with the numbers to make it seem like the economic equity and the structural foundations of the economy aren't in horrific shape in our country, and think that people will be satisfied with promises of free birth-control and abortions.

The funny thing is that the Democrats don't have to have nights like last night. They already have the voters out there, they just need to get them to the polls. If they actually spoke to issues people cared about and ran on the obvious solutions to those problems instead of half-assed cop-outs and excuses, they wouldn't have to worry about turnout either.

Dems encourage people to be lazy and stupid (zombies) and than act shocked when their mindless slugs don't vote...  an interesting cycle of irony
Zombie party complains that it is difficult to get zombies to the polls in midterms. 
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2014, 10:13:07 AM »

Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2014, 10:18:03 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2014, 10:20:16 AM »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.   

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.   
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.   
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."     
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.   
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems? 

Huh
Are you unfamiliar with mainstream Republican talking points, Simfan?
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2014, 10:20:48 AM »

The popularity of cable news has made people more informed but also more stupid. They know what's going on, who the political personalties are, etc but the facts are twisted and distorted in ways that properly outrage them to maintain TV ratings. Politics is more national now than ever and the south especially isn't going to vote for President black man's "Democrat" Party, no matter how strong the candidates are or how much they actually try to cater to their local needs.
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2014, 10:21:16 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2014, 10:22:01 AM »

Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
? what?  demean uninformed mob mentality?  

...yes, I oppose scientifically stupid behavior

...you probably should as well, if you don't already.  

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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2014, 10:23:45 AM »

Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
? what?  demean uninformed mob mentality?  

...yes, I oppose scientifically stupid behavior

...you probably should as well, if you don't already.  



lol

"Scientifically stupid" is probably one of the dumbest phrases I've ever seen coined and yet you thought it was so clever that you put in bold font.

Hilarious.
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2014, 10:33:33 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.

So you're telling me all we need to win is a "ˇViva [Insert GOP candidate here]!" campaign?
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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2014, 10:37:47 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.

Domination of the US House
Control of US Senate:
I Think long term GOP will have an advantage in the US Senate range of 48-to-60ish Seats.
64 of 98 state legislative chambers  
The governor-ships of Illinois, Massachusetts, and freaking Maryland.

...what more do you want?  

GOP is becoming a 45 state party and dems are becoming a 5 state party, yes I agree with you the zombie elections are tough AND demographic blocks require some work in breaking up and I think it will happen - the question is when -- I'd like to see 40%+ of Hispanics and 30%+ of Blacks off the plantation.  
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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2014, 10:40:14 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.

Domination of the US House
Control of US Senate:
I Think long term GOP will have an advantage in the US Senate range of 48-to-60ish Seats.
64 of 98 state legislative chambers  
The governor-ships of Illinois, Massachusetts, and freaking Maryland.

...what more do you want?  

GOP is becoming a 45 state party and dems are becoming a 5 state party, yes I agree with you the zombie elections are tough AND demographic blocks require some work in breaking up and I think it will happen - the question is when -- I'd like to see 40%+ of Hispanics and 30%+ of Blacks of the plantation.  

The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2014, 10:41:36 AM »

All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.

So you're telling me all we need to win is a "ˇViva [Insert GOP candidate here]!" campaign?

Even an insincere "Viva ___" is better than talking about how browns are fraudsters and job thieves.
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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2014, 10:53:55 AM »

Yes, Democrats are pro-sex party and olds who vote in midterms don't find the sex to be all that pleasant.

There are a wide range of attitudes and behaviors on the spectrum between "I hate sex" and the Dan Savages and Lena Dunhams of the world. When you construct a dichotomy, as the forces of popular culture have, that leaves out most people, it isn't going to end up serving you well in the long run when you depend on that dichotomy to try to win elections and create policy.
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« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2014, 10:55:11 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 10:57:59 AM by Holmes »

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

Sounds like you have an agenda and are projecting it onto these election results.

Also, uh, y'all need to stop being so reactionary. The GOP was a "5 state party" after 2006 and 2008. Unpopular presidents happen, message wars are won, midterms happen, and then the situation is reversed. Don't forget that the Republican gains from 2010 and last night will next be contested during presidential years. The Senate can again be the complete opposite of what is is now after the 2020 election, no matter who wins the Presidency.
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« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2014, 11:02:54 AM »

The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Media and "pop"culture are all we're talking about.  Dems haven't won an idea war in 3-5 decades.  The internet is killing off much of the media bias.  Hopefully, by 2016 they won't be able to push an Obama on us . 
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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2014, 11:05:33 AM »

The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Media and "pop"culture are all we're talking about.  Dems haven't won an idea war in 3-5 decades.  The internet is killing off much of the media bias.  Hopefully, by 2016 they won't be able to push an Obama on us . 

You're seeing things that are not there and will be gravely disappointed in 2016. I will just leave it at that.
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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2014, 11:05:59 AM »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.   

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.   
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.   
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."     
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.   
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems? 

Huh
Are you unfamiliar with mainstream Republican talking points, Simfan?
Mainstream facts I wish were in Republican talking points.  
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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2014, 11:09:33 AM »

The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Media and "pop"culture are all we're talking about.  Dems haven't won an idea war in 3-5 decades.  The internet is killing off much of the media bias.  Hopefully, by 2016 they won't be able to push an Obama on us . 

You're seeing things that are not there and will be gravely disappointed in 2016. I will just leave it at that.
I see the possibility of a zombie election in 2016!!!   Stop pretending I'm oblivious to the zombies, I get your point!!!!     
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