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« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2014, 11:19:25 AM »

Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
? what?  demean uninformed mob mentality?  

...yes, I oppose scientifically stupid behavior

...you probably should as well, if you don't already.  



lol

"Scientifically stupid" is probably one of the dumbest phrases I've ever seen coined and yet you thought it was so clever that you put in bold font.

Hilarious.
Don't oppose science. Mob psychology is dangerous stuff.   
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« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2014, 12:27:15 PM »

Yes, many white Southern Democrats have died. RIP.
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« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2014, 12:43:40 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2014, 12:46:06 PM by Rockefeller GOP »

Yes, many white Southern Democrats have died. RIP.

Not sure if you meant it this way or not, but this is an often overlooked fact.  Everyone has this image of old school Dixiecrats finally abandoning the Democratic Party in the modern era, but the truth is most of them died off in the '90s and early 2000s.  The Silent Generation is pretty much gone...

The "old people" who are voting Republican now were little kids when segregation was still prevalent.  They might seem racist or nativist to many younger posters but they're certainly not the White Southern Democrats of yesteryear.  Those folks have largely died off, and their kids (by and large) never grew an affection for the Democratic Party.
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« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2014, 12:46:44 PM »

Yes, Gore is the last Dem Presidential candidate to win seniors in 2000 and likely will be for a few decades.

Old Southerners today grew up with Ronnie Reagan as their President.
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« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2014, 01:28:13 PM »

Blue Dogs were only a thing because they were willing to vote with their constituencies against their own national party.

In the last few years, it's become impossible for them to do that. So what would be the point for those crossvoters to keep voting for them?

Had Reid allowed votes on stuff like those "Keep your doctor" bills that they introduced, or the Keystone pipeline, or EPA amendments, etc, they'd at least have a fighting chance. But for some reason he prioritized saving the ink on Obama's veto pen over his own chance to keep a majority.
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« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2014, 01:46:43 PM »

They play games with the numbers to make it seem like the economic equity and the structural foundations of the economy aren't in horrific shape in our country, and think that people will be satisfied with promises of free birth-control and abortions.

...and we have a winner. Not just to this thread, but to the elections in general.
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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2014, 09:30:58 AM »

Beshear in KY, Steve Cohen and Jim Cooper in TN are still around and will be for a long time.
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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2014, 01:51:11 PM »

RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

I agree totally.
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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2014, 02:08:54 PM »

Beshear in KY, Steve Cohen and Jim Cooper in TN are still around and will be for a long time.

Well Beshear is a governor.  There are no guarantees he would win if he ran for a Senate seat.  Same with Mike Beebe in Arkansas (who is beating Boozman in polls in a 2016 hypothetical match-up).

Cohen and Cooper are from Memphis and Nashville respectively.  Louisville also has a Democrat in the House.  Most large Texas cities also have Democratic representatives.  Southern cities are still Democratic, there just aren't as many cities down there I guess.
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« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2014, 06:10:33 AM »

The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Yes, this is the line for interviews! Now please, go up to every black person you meet and repeat this until they get it.
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« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2014, 08:28:31 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2014, 08:58:24 PM by Frodo »

Can anyone check to see if it's true that the level of white support for Republican candidates (I am taking about the deep and interior South) rivals that of white support for Southern Democrats in the Jim Crow era, especially between 1880 and 1948?  
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« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2014, 09:00:09 PM »

What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.    

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.    
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.  
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."    
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.    
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems?  


Add environmentalism to it that list, the modern day dems have lost West virginia and Kentucky because forcing a prominent industry to be shut down obviously won't piss anybody off.... right?
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« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2014, 09:27:54 PM »

Wow, another day another painfully un-funny right-wing cartoon.
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« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2014, 11:29:48 PM »

See the color of his skin? That's why Democrats are getting killed in the South and will probably never win in Dixie ever again.

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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2014, 02:34:49 AM »

I'm more confident about 2016 than I was post-2012. Why? Because, as other conservatives were commenting above, Democrats are overdoing it with the racial demagoguery.  They're scared to death of even losing a smidgen of the black vote. Their entire status as a national party is dependent on racial demagoguery.
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« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2014, 02:47:17 AM »
« Edited: December 07, 2014, 02:49:40 AM by Kraxner »

See the color of his skin? That's why Democrats are getting killed in the South and will probably never win in Dixie ever again.




Not really, Obama carried Florida and Virginia twice. A feet that neither John Kerry or Al Gore was able to do.


Also if he didn't take up gun control after sandy hook,  Kay Hagan would still would of had a chance of being saved. Gun control was the last straw amongst democrats still thinking about switching over to the GOP, in the South.
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« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2014, 02:49:24 AM »

lol people think the Democratic Party supports trans rights
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« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2014, 02:52:28 AM »

See the color of his skin? That's why Democrats are getting killed in the South and will probably never win in Dixie ever again.




Not really, Obama carried Florida and Virginia twice. A feet that neither John Kerry or Al Gore was able to do.

You act like Obama carried Virginia and Florida while Gore/Kerry lost them due to his charisma and winning over the people there? Not because Virginia and Florida are now sufficiently non-white enough that the inherent racism of southern whites is irrelevant?
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« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2014, 02:59:05 AM »

Not really, Obama carried Florida and Virginia twice. A feet that neither John Kerry or Al Gore was able to do.

VA, 2000: 72.3% white
VA, 2010: 62.2% white

FL, 2000: 65.4% white
FL, 2010: 56.4% white
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« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2014, 08:02:40 AM »

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If I were permitted to subtract just two counties would you share this opinion?
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« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2014, 11:16:35 AM »

See the color of his skin? That's why Democrats are getting killed in the South and will probably never win in Dixie ever again.



You are surprised that Southern whites are disinclined to vote for a party who insist that they are racist? You can’t expect to win voters by insulting them.
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« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2014, 11:32:06 PM »

Jim Hood the MS Attorney General could make runs for governor or Senate in the future and could win; Jason Carter, Michelle Nunn, Roy Barnes, Jim Marshall, John Barrow are the future of Southern Democrats.
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« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2014, 11:38:15 PM »

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If I were permitted to subtract just two counties would you share this opinion?


You mean Fairfax and Miami-Dade, right?  I don't think it's appropriate to describe either as the South post 1990.  Obama (barely) wins VA without Fairfax both times, but McAuliffe and Warner would have lost.
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