Are O'Malley and Warner done (for President/VP)?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 25, 2024, 12:45:49 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2016 U.S. Presidential Election
  Are O'Malley and Warner done (for President/VP)?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Author Topic: Are O'Malley and Warner done (for President/VP)?  (Read 1794 times)
IceSpear
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,840
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -6.43

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: November 05, 2014, 03:45:33 AM »

Warner beating Ed Gillespie by less than 1% probably torches his hopes for president or vice president. Same for O'Malley, with his protege getting thumped in one of the bluest states in the country.
Logged
Boston Bread
New Canadaland
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,636
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -5.00, S: -5.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2014, 03:48:08 AM »

Democratic primary voters in general already don't take them seriously. Now nobody will.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2014, 03:53:32 AM »

After the cataclysmic loss in MD, O'Malley is pretty damaged goods.
Logged
Replicator
Rookie
**
Posts: 89
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 03:54:28 AM »

Yes and I hope you young Democrats with your search for young and attractive candidates have learned your lesson. You cheer them on and we defeat them. No more hand outs for you.
Logged
Likely Voter
Moderators
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,344


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 03:56:01 AM »

I can't remember a candidates margin of victory ever being a topic in a debate or attack ad. It might not help with elite donors but how is it going to effect voters. Especially as 2014 will be seen as a GOP wave year like 2010.  If Hillary doesn't run, both will be viable candidates and Warner is still in the upper short list for Hillary as VP.
Logged
○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└
jfern
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 53,728


Political Matrix
E: -7.38, S: -8.36

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 03:59:16 AM »

Warner beating Ed Gillespie by less than 1% probably torches his hopes for president or vice president. Same for O'Malley, with his protege getting thumped in one of the bluest states in the country.

Deval Patrick and Martin O'Malley aren't the ones who lost, so I wouldn't count them out.
Logged
Fmr President & Senator Polnut
polnut
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,489
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -2.71, S: -5.22

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 04:14:56 AM »

Yes and I hope you young Democrats with your search for young and attractive candidates have learned your lesson. You cheer them on and we defeat them. No more hand outs for you.

Do go away.
Logged
Nichlemn
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,920


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 04:17:40 AM »

I can't remember a candidates margin of victory ever being a topic in a debate or attack ad. It might not help with elite donors but how is it going to effect voters. Especially as 2014 will be seen as a GOP wave year like 2010.  If Hillary doesn't run, both will be viable candidates and Warner is still in the upper short list for Hillary as VP.

The standing with elites matters a ton when getting your face out, especially if you don't have some kind of charismatic/populist angle to go for. Warner's whole appeal was really that he was very popular in a purple state. Now that angle is much weaker.
Logged
Joe Republic
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 40,082
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 05:44:59 AM »

Mitt Romney's protege lost MA-Gov in a landslide in 2006, but that didn't stop him from running for president twice.

Not that O'Malley or anybody else is even going to bother if Hillary runs.
Logged
Maxwell
mah519
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,459
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 06:01:09 AM »

I'm not sure Warner is done, but it certainly was a huge surprise.

O'Malley never started anything so he could be done, his potential candidacy was met with such "meh" that even Maryland only had him at 4%.
Logged
Boston Bread
New Canadaland
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,636
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -5.00, S: -5.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 06:47:17 AM »

I'm standing by my first pick of Merkley for Clinton's VP even moreso now. Base turnout, electability, geography, party faction, he's got a lot going for him.
Logged
Maxwell
mah519
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,459
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 06:55:45 AM »

I personally think Sherrod Brown is the one for Clinton.
Logged
Suburbia
bronz4141
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,684
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 07:29:26 AM »

O Malley may still run. If he's the nominee he may lose big unless he has a good message.
Logged
Landslide Lyndon
px75
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 26,836
Greece


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 07:40:01 AM »

I personally think Sherrod Brown is the one for Clinton.

If they win, then Kasich will almost certainly pick a Republican to replace him. That's a significant minus.
Logged
Suburbia
bronz4141
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,684
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 08:37:38 AM »

If Hillary doesn't run and O Malley does and if the Democratic   race is between O Malley,  Biden,  Warren and Sanders,  Cuomo O Malley may win by default because he has the "looks" factor and may have a better liberal record
Logged
King
intermoderate
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,356
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 10:16:51 AM »

These two bores were born done.
Logged
BM
BeccaM
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,261
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 10:38:20 AM »

They were already done for by being complete nondescript duds, which is partially to blame for what happened in their states.
Logged
Bull Moose Base
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,488


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 11:05:45 AM »

Warner would have been a better pick if he'd lost. I'm assuming Hillary is too smart to pick a sitting senator.

Being boring or the Democratic nominee in Maryland losing yesterday aren't real problems, but the Maryland exchange rollout is something of a problem for O'Malley. I still expect him to run for and break the record for the fewest negative things said about his opponent with zero.

But I'm the first person (in the world?) to call Gary Locke as Hillary's VP. Now look at the drop-off of the Asian vote for Dems yesterday.
Logged
Stranger in a strange land
strangeland
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 10,170
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 11:35:06 AM »

I'm not sure Warner is done, but it certainly was a huge surprise.

O'Malley never started anything so he could be done, his potential candidacy was met with such "meh" that even Maryland only had him at 4%.

Warner's VP hopes (if he had any) are gone after last night. O'Malley took a big hit - if he runs now, he won't be taken seriously.
Logged
I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,026
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2014, 11:42:53 AM »

Unless it's the year 2005 and you're a 16 year old who worships Moderate Heroes or a doomsaying Democrat, there's no reason to be excited about Mark Warner. He's the epitome of a bland white guy politician. Keep in mind the original reason everyone was so excited about him was his success in the "Republican state" of Virginia, which is pretty moot now. Most I can see him getting is a cabinet position.

O'Malley was never interesting to...well anyone. I guess he was a little inspiring in the inspiring Democratic year of 2006 so people talked about him then, but he did nothing after that to make him Presidential candidate material.
Logged
dmmidmi
dmwestmi
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,095
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2014, 01:23:11 PM »

"Well, I was going to choose Mark Warner as my running mate, but he won re-election to the US Senate in a squeaker, not by a huge margin."

"Martin O'Malley was totally on my shortlist, but the Democrat who ran for the Governor's seat after him got beat, so he's out."

-things I'm 100% positive Hillary Clinton will never say

As for becoming President? The possibilities of either a Warner or O'Malley Administration were already non-existent.
Logged
IceSpear
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,840
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -6.43

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2014, 03:04:34 PM »

Mitt Romney's protege lost MA-Gov in a landslide in 2006, but that didn't stop him from running for president twice.

Not that O'Malley or anybody else is even going to bother if Hillary runs.

Yeah, but Mass is a very blue state, so it's a bit different. It would be like if Robert Bentley was going to run for president, but his Lt. Gov lost to a Democrat by 9 points.

But yeah, true that on the latter...
Logged
ShadowRocket
cb48026
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,461


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2014, 03:14:24 PM »

I think Warner is probably more negatively affected than O'Malley considering that the whole rationale behind him being a good VP pick or presidential candidate was a perceived ability to lock down VA. Which seems a lot less likely after last night.

O'Malley is/was never going to be much of a factor with or without Hillary.

I'm standing by my first pick of Merkley for Clinton's VP even moreso now. Base turnout, electability, geography, party faction, he's got a lot going for him.

Yeah, I've pegged him as a dark horse contender for VP as well for awhile myself.
Logged
Devils30
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,990
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.06, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2014, 05:19:59 PM »

Warner isn't done, no one will care two years from now how much he won by.
Logged
IceSpear
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,840
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -6.43

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2014, 05:33:13 PM »

Warner isn't done, no one will care two years from now how much he won by.

Why would someone considering him for VP not care? Most of his appeal was for the bump in Virginia.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.044 seconds with 13 queries.