Federal Marriage Amendment

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Let the states decide, its a states rights issue. But I believe the govt has the right to use carrot and stick w/federal funding if they wish.

[Brambila]

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dude banning Oral sex is going to get rocks thrown at you by 75% of this nation. lol

[Brambila]

I'm not saying we should. Neither do I believe that homosexual sex should be banned. I'm just saying that it's immoral.

[opebo]

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That's absurd.  What possible difference could it make?

[Brambila]

If it were illegalized? That's not what I want. I'm saying it's immoral. I don't think sodomy should be illegal, though if it were illegal (along with oral and anal sex) AIDS would greatly decrease in the US.

[migrendel]

While I understand that it is not relevant to procreation, I do not see where the issue is. There are holes and things to put in the holes. It's just an inventive use of the human body.

[Brambila]

it's extremely unnatural and missing the entire point. If it's unnatural, it is therefore immoral.

However, I'm not going to illegalize it. What two adults do in the bedroom is fine.

[migrendel]

That only holds true if you believe in Natural Law, which most people got over in the eighteenth century. Besides, eating corn on the cob with little holders that look like corn on the cob, wearing clothes, and using toilet paper are all concepts alien to the evolutionary paradigm and not justified by a natural impulse but no one opposes them as unnatural.

[Brambila]

Actually, natural law was redefined by Darwin in the 19th century. Natural Law is not a religious belief, it's a requirement for the evolutionary survival of humanity.

I can picture you a hundred years from now murdering a 3-year-old boy, and when I criticize you, you'll say "Morality? Humanity got over that centuries ago..."

[migrendel]

I think you are confusing Natural Selection, a Darwinian idea not suited for analysis here, with Natural Law, a doctrine expounded by St. Thomas Aquinas that would be ridiculously out of place here.

[Brambila]

In addition to Natural Selection, Darwin had Natural Law.

[migrendel]

Perhaps he borrowed from it, but it certainly didn't start with him.

[migrendel]

Well, I can agree that he probably incorporated elements of it into his interpretations of his data.